The newest threat to your liberty

catocom

Well-Known Member
In this state, they don't have to have a reason to pull you over.
If you don't consent to a search, they could consider that in it's self probable cause.

If they see a possible civil problem, they Will call the dog here, and it Will
signal on something.
Of coarse they can always say,
"hey, the dog does make a mistake periodically",
unless they find something.

Of coarse I know many of the officers in this area,
and most of them aren't hard-asses like that.
If they pull you, and want to search, they usually have a pretty good reason for the hunch.
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
I feel diminished for having read that Cat


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catocom

Well-Known Member
well, you should also take into account...
I have very different views on the subject between local [state], and [federal].

I don't agree with giving the fed anywhere near that much digression or power.
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
us common folk don't know what the Real story, or motive(s) were/are,
but it is for sure a cover up of some degree has, and is happening.
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
excuses?

I can't do anything about you being naive about how things go down in this area.

You tell me why those officers didn't get found guilty for killing Ayers in that
story I posted.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
they passed the law that they don't need a reason to pull you over

Amendment IV said:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Georgia Bill of Rights said:
]Paragraph XIII. Searches, seizures, and warrants. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated; and no warrant shall issue except upon probable cause supported by oath or affirmation particularly describing the place or places to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

See a problem here?
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
nope
that doesn't apply to the new law because it's about motor vehicles.

Now that said, it should be on pubic highways, but the Ayers event took place on the stores private property.

Now I do see a problem with the articles there and the Patriot act.
The Patriot act is the single biggest violation of our liberties ever, and I
personally think congress should work on repealing that even before the health care stuff.
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
that is an excuse.

man, you lost me now.
I have no idea about the point you are trying to make.

I'm just telling you that the Law, and what actually happens in a situation
are 2 different things, and you can't always do anything about it.

And, yep, in many cases these days, especially in the media, you are
"Guilty until proven Innocent".
That's not the way it's supposed top be, and I don't agree with it,
but it happens most all the time anyway.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
that sounds like a good excuse for not doing anything about it.

in other news... recliner sales are up.
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
Not doing anything about what?
What do You propose to be done?
and
How do you know nothing is being done about it?
 
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