U.N. report: U.S. committed acts 'amounting to torture' at Gitmo

[Gato_Solo]

Quit trying to play games
I have provided several sources of evidence yet you have not provided any.

Do you have any evidence for this claim or not? -> "the persons in charge and the persons carrying out this act were duly punished".

I don't need to. Your own source has a list of people being punished who were tried, and found guilty. Keep highlighting your lack of foresight, though.

On April 14, 2004 Lieutenant Ilario Pantano of the United States Marine Corps, killed two unarmed captives. Lieutenant Pantano was later to claim that the captives had advanced on him in a threatening manner. But this contradicted the official statement he made to military investigators in June 2004. Further, in his June statement he explained that he had emptied two entire magazines into their bodies in order "to send a message". Lieutenant Pantano admitted to placing a warning over his captive's corpses. The officer who presided over his article 32 hearing recommended a court martial for his body desecration. But all charges against Lieutenant Pantano were dropped, and he was able to resign from the Marines with an honorable discharge

So now body desecration is now murder, and dropped charges mean guilt. Another abuse of the dictionary by the wise, all-knowing flavio...

 

[flavio]

I don't need to. Your own source has a list of people being punished who were tried, and found guilty. Keep highlighting your lack of foresight, though.

So I guess that's a NO. Just speculation.

So now body desecration is now murder, and dropped charges mean guilt. Another abuse of the dictionary by the wise, all-knowing flavio...

Something waived and ignored just like you asked.

 

[flavio]

Amnesty says Iraq abuses continue

Prisoners at Iraq's Abu Ghraib jail in October 2005
Amnesty's researchers met former inmates in Iraq and Jordan
Amnesty International has said that thousands of detainees held by the multinational forces in Iraq are still being denied their basic rights.

The group said the lessons of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal appeared to have been ignored and reports of torture continued to "pour out of Iraq".

It said it based its findings on interviews with former inmates.

US and British officials insist that prisoners are treated in accordance with international standards.

The report says the multinational forces and Iraqi authorities must take urgent steps to stop human rights abuses if there is to be any hope of halting Iraq's slide towards increasing violence and sectarianism.

Amnesty says in its 48-page report that thousands of Iraqis are being held without charge or trial.

More than 200 detainees have been imprisoned for more than two years and nearly 4,000 for over a year, it reports.

"To hold this huge number of people without basic legal safeguards is a gross dereliction of responsibility on the part of both the US and UK forces," said its UK director, Kate Allen.

More.......

 

[catocom]

I say shut it down.
Just kill all of the enemy, and they won't need to be fed and housed.

 

[Professur]

I've got a better idea. Let them go. On a very small island somewhere. No wimmens, right? I'm sure there's a few isolated islands with plenty of feral pigs as a food source. Betcha they'd take a "porking" if you could breed a generation in captivity.

 

[flavio]

I say shut it down.
Just kill all of the enemy, and they won't need to be fed and housed.

Why do you think these people are all enemies?

 

[Professur]

Why do you think these people are all enemies?

Weren't they caught shooting at American soldiers?

 

[highwayman]

I've got a better idea. Let them go. On a very small island somewhere. No wimmens, right? I'm sure there's a few isolated islands with plenty of feral pigs as a food source. Betcha they'd take a "porking" if you could breed a generation in captivity.

Good idea...airdrop feed for the sqeelers and nothing else...

 

[flavio]

Why would you thnik that? A lot of them were just pulled out of their homes. That's why there's no charges against mot of them.

...this guy didn't shoot at anybody.

 

[highwayman]

The charges were also dropped, there must have been something in the charges for him to be detained....

 

[Gonz]

military officials said they did so to avoid making sensitive information public — not because he was innocent.

CYA? Perhaps. However, the military has a different justice system than the civilian system.

 

[highwayman]

CYA? Perhaps. However, the military has a different justice system than the civilian system.

If it was me I would resign my commision when I could so that I would walk away with an Honerable, he is obviously a target...

 

[catocom]

Why do you think these people are all enemies?

Some may not be I don't know.
I'm saying they should have had a tribunal while they were still rounded up in
the barbed-wire in Afghanistan. If guilty, shot. If found innocent, turned loose.
Same as now, give them a tribunal.
Of coarse there'd be a major out-crying if they were killed.

I guess you just want to turn them all loose huh?

 

[highwayman]

I guess you just want to turn them all loose huh?

I would, they would be good target practice for the snipers....

 

[flavio]

The charges were also dropped, there must have been something in the charges for him to be detained....

You think everytime charges are dropped against someone that there must have been something in them? I think most times if there's something in them they shouldn't get dropped.

I guess you just want to turn them all loose huh?

If there's no charges against them they shouldn't be imprisoned. That doesn't seem reasonable?

 

[catocom]

If there's no charges against them they shouldn't be imprisoned. That doesn't seem reasonable?

There were charges, when they were detained.

 

[flavio]

If you read the article in this post you can see "thousands of Iraqis are being held without charge or trial".

 

[catocom]

I read it. They needed to use the word "formal" in there IMO.
They are all charge with being enemy combatants, until proven innocent.
They were all in a war zone.

 

[flavio]

They are all charge with being enemy combatants

How do you know this?

until proven innocent

No charges but they can just be detained indefinately until they can prove themselves innocent? Wow.

They were all in a war zone.

They live in a country that we invaded....were they supposed to leave?

 

[Gonz]

They were all in a war zone.

We have a winner!

Tell him what's he's won, Johnny.