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    BEST OTC THINKER award goes to.....

    Thanks PT. Now I'm gonna go bitchslap my boss and let him know how thoughtful I am! :D
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    Need help with Quantum Physics

    The theory that nothing really exists until we observe it is related to something called the collapse of the wave function. The wave function is a mathematical description Erwin Schrodinger (of cat's fame) came up with to explain some observations and some theoretical mathematics. It isn't...
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    Should torture be legalized?

    Hypotheticals are a tool to illuminate whether a certain subject is completely black or white, or whether it contains shades of gray; in the latter case you then procede with the difficult task of drawing lines. For example, take the simple ethical question "is it ever morally and ethically...
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    Should torture be legalized?

    Um... to save lives? Have you read the thread?
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    Should torture be legalized?

    Everything is relative. Is injecting someone with truth serum "no better" than kidnapping and burrying alive a child? Then I suppose I don't. I do not believe you have the right to hit me in the face. I don't believe you have the right to murder whomever you wish. Your rights have to be...
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    Should torture be legalized?

    Easy to take cheap shots at someone, isn't it. :rolleyes: Why don't you respond to the questions about the hypothetical kidnapping case? Who is more barbaric... the person who respects the "rights" of the kidnapper to not be tortured, or the person who respects the "rights" of the child to...
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    Should torture be legalized?

    Erm, perhaps you didn't read my posts in this thread closely enough. I'm asking about torture as a means of gathering vital information, which can certainly be used for the protection of citizens. You seem to be addressing torture as punishment, which is another subject entirely to me (though...
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    Should torture be legalized?

    And what about for purposes of information gathering, which is the entire point of this thread?
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    Are you on the list?

    yeah, I made the list with 7 different aliases. :lol:
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    New law passed in California, could be far reaching

    Damnit, I just can't seem to remember the wording used. Something like "assumption of something or another" or "principle of this or that". Bah. I'll run across it again some day.
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    Should torture be legalized?

    So you might be in favor of torture for punishment of some crimes, but not as a means of extracting information? Bizarre! :)
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    Should torture be legalized?

    Precisely. Reminds me of a very stirring statement made by Patrick Stewart during one of the ST:TNG episodes, to the effect that "no justice can be just that is absolute." I think a corollary could well be that there are circumstances in which things otherwise viewed as inhuman or uncivil...
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    Should torture be legalized?

    Not for punishment, but for extracting information in extraordinary cases. Remember, torture is a wide umbrella that covers truth serum, sleep deprivation, and loud music as well as the less creative physical means. AFAICT, our Constitution doesn't prohibit the use of torture. It only...
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    New law passed in California, could be far reaching

    I don't remember the popular name for this law, and I can't seem to find a link about it (would help if I could remember the name, eh? :D ). Essentially, California passed a law that prohibits acts/choices for which there is evidence of it being harmful to the environment. I wish I could...
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    maybe something will be done about elderly drivers

    I wouldn't bitch too bad about requiring someone to have a license to buy a car. The few cases where it might be a real pain could probably be handled by a special permit or similar. However, requiring a car to be insured when purchased just isn't going to work. Despite what you and many...
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    The Thermaltake Titty Knob

    Man, and off topic thread in an off topic forum that went horribly off topic. :lol: You guys better stop being so serious with guvment and stuff of I'll have to send you all to the grown up forum! :rofl2:
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    help me with this popup spam thing :(

    That's why I don't go looking for viruses, trojans, and spyware. I just assume that my computer is always completely hosed and on the verge of complete shutdown, and may require a clean format and reinstall at any time. That way I'm happy with the way it runs, and not upset when it crashes...
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    If you had a Million Dollars ... ?

    Well, you started them with a wad, so I suppose you should leave them with a wad as well. :)
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    Should I buy the thing I am thinking of buying?

    I resent that... I only have nine so far. :lol:
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    Whats your real name....

    My real name is Norman O. J. Perval
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