ResearchMonkey
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{Keep it civil - gonz}, you have all the answer you are going to get.
Arizona moving towards police state
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{Keep it civil - gonz}, you have all the answer you are going to get.
ResearchMonkey
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Nobody seems to mind DUI checkpoints. OK, so we check them every time the utilize a public resource. Local parks, hospitals, welfare, drivers license, library's. We can set up citizen checkpoints for random checks, just like for DUI's.
IF dumb-assed lib's hadn't created the problem by welcoming them in with enticements we wouldn't have this problem.
http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Resources/Citizenship & Naturalization Based Resources/G-1151.pdf
IF dumb-assed lib's hadn't created the problem by welcoming them in with enticements we wouldn't have this problem.
http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Resources/Citizenship & Naturalization Based Resources/G-1151.pdf
ResearchMonkey
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Welfare, free medical Tx, social security -- how are those not enticements?
And yes, all of those are available to illegals.
And yes, all of those are available to illegals.
ResearchMonkey
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Yes, yes he did.
He is not a president for the American people, he is a divider.
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spike
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US citizens don't have a congruent look or speaking manner.
You didn't answer at all, you ran away from your remarks.
You clearly insinuated that your wife's genes weren't "normal" because of her racial background and yours were superior because they are European.
You also posted a pic showing the Latino population of the US as if it was a problem as if you're against Latinos in general.
I realize that you dug yourself a big hole there and it's going to be hard to defend those statements but running away would come off as a cowardly way to handle it.
Lots of people mind them as they're not really Constitutional and pretty fascist.
That is some anti-freedom crap. I got a better idea. Everyone in AZ should stop carrying around their papers that will bog down the system with false arrests, cost them a fortune, and open them up to countless lawsuits. The sooner they are forced to give up this fascist crap the better.
Wrong.
Social security
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/p/petition-illegals.htm
Welfare
"Illegal immigrants are barred from the following federal public benefits: grants, contracts, loans, licenses, retirement, welfare, health, disability, public or assisted housing, post secondary education, food assistance, and unemployment benefits. States are barred from providing state or locally funded benefits to illegal immigrants unless a state law is enacted granting such authority."
Also free healthcare is available in countries like Mexico. Not as much here.
Bish is right, the desire for cheap labor is what brought the Mexicans rolling across the border. Maybe go after the businesses instead of giving up freedoms?
ResearchMonkey
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Yeah, well explain why I spent FIVE years granting social security benefits to illegal aliens then.
You really missed absolutely everything in this thread.
I pity you.
You really missed absolutely everything in this thread.
I pity you.
spike
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Not doing your job right?
Social Security
As of this writing, Illegal immigrants are not benefiting much from Social Security. It's technically illegal to hire an undocumented worker so theoretically there should not be any paying into Social Security. But because of so many illegal workers who use bogus Social Security cards to get jobs, billions of dollars of Social Security deductions are made each year as well as employer payments into Social Security on behalf of those workers. Illegals are not supposed to collect on Social Security and because their Social Security numbers are manufactured, they cannot collect so the money has become a part of the controversy over Illegal immigration. There have been some estimates that more than $60 billion a year are being paid into the system because of illegal immigrants, money that would disappear if the immigrants did.
Immigration reform being debated in Congress could affect all this such as if amnesty is granted to illegal aliens currently residing in the U.S. or if illegal aliens are given some kind of participation in the Social Security system. There is no legislation, however, that would give illegal aliens Social Security payments if they have not paid into Social Security.
You haven't made one reasonable to point and I don't think I've missed one opportunity to prove you wrong.
I pity you.[/QUOTE]
It would have been fun to watch you try to squirm out of the racist statements you made but it was just as fun to watch you run away from them and desperately try to change the subject. So no reason to pity me, it was fun either way.
ResearchMonkey
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I hate to tell you this truth. Disabled illegal aliens ARE granted SSDI under both Title II and Title XVI in California. They get a check and they get Medi-Cal. Albeit during the last TWO years it has been more difficult to get the grants via ALJ hearings and reviews but those who have permanent benefits continue to get them. Just like with federal immigration laws, the SS laws are proactively ignored.
I'm done wasting time with you for now, [insert insult here].
I'm done wasting time with you for now, [insert insult here].
This law does not allow that.
That would be one of the reasons (if this is true) why California's coffers are empty. They pass these well meaning laws for programs but don't think about how those programs will be paid for.
IMO, if you have a bill that will make society a better place, I'm all ears. But you better have a plan on paying for it or you've lost me.
I had to go back a page to find the first post! Damn!
I wondered how long it would take the Right to turn free America into Nazi Germany.
I guess next they'll send us to a concentration camp if we can't present our papers?
ResearchMonkey
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Never. We conservatives want smaller government, we want government out of our lives. It's the lefty's that wants every aspect of lives controlled by massive socialist government control. You thinking doesn't add up.
Part of the plan is to reduce crime and wasted resources on illegals. A double 25' wall would be a great start in reducing the burden of foreign invaders.
MrBishop
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37 E. A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WITHOUT A WARRANT, MAY ARREST A PERSON
38 IF THE OFFICER HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON HAS COMMITTED
39 ANY PUBLIC OFFENSE THAT MAKES THE PERSON REMOVABLE FROM THE UNITED STATES.
*Including being in the USA illegally.
Gato_Solo
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What's wrong with that?
MrBishop
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Actually, you're mistaking Liberalism with Socialism.
Liberals want autonomy, freedom & equality.
MrBishop
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Ever been stopped for DWB?
This is on a much larger scale..but amounts to the same thing.
catocom
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How is there more freedom with more government, and more regulations imposed?
ResearchMonkey
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Three thing the governemnt caanot provide by legislation. the government can only stand out of the way and it comes from with in the individual.
Liberals are socialist, they may not know it but the fruit of their labor show it to be true.
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