Call a spade a spade already

"Say a Mexican makes 20 pesos a day ($1.80) working on his farm, but he can make 80 pesos in the United States," Casillas said. "So he'll go to the United States and hire a Guatemalan to take care of his farm for 20 pesos a day."
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:lol:

I do not have a problem with immigrants as long as their modus vivendi is not asking for charity.
 
You can especially enjoy the wetbacks (is there a river between Mexico & Guatemala?) as they change your culture & demand special rights. Say, isn't that the Mexican Army standing on your southern border ;)
 
Gonz said:
You can especially enjoy the wetbacks (is there a river between Mexico & Guatemala?) as they change your culture & demand special rights. Say, isn't that the Mexican Army standing on your southern border ;)
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:lol: They won't change our culture (we're tough to change, haven't you noticed?) and they can't demand special rights, our legal system is far different from yours.

The south border is a problem as it is mostly jungle and mountains, impossible to patrol every km of the border. Many of them will end up dead or lost.
 
Dead or lost? When that happens in the Arizona desert, your gov't & special interest groups demand water stations. Maybe we should plant trees?
 
Gonz said:
Dead or lost? When that happens in the Arizona desert, your gov't & special interest groups demand water stations. Maybe we should plant trees?
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My goverment?, is there a formal letter signed by the Foreign Relations Secretary to sustent that? :confuse3:

Maybe you should patrol better or stop giving employement to immigrants.

edit: spell
 
me and my bf jay went to mcdonalds late one night, through the 24 hour drive thru, and NO ONE THERE SPOKE ENGLISH. beyond the names of the foods, they knew nothing. we ended up going to another mcdonalds, where everyone spoke english :)

i hate it when people who dont speak english get miffed at my inability to speak THEIR language. in AMERICA. at the old photo lab i worked at, sometimes i'd be asked for help in broken broken english and then be given a look of derision for not knowing how to explain better in a language other than my own.
that's what Luis was good for. he was the maintenence/janitor guy. he was applying for citezenship. but he asked me to help him with some of the answers to some questions he was studying. i felt really bad for it, but i didn't help him. if he can't figure out what the capital of the state he's trying to live in is, then there's not much i can really do.
 
ash r said:
me and my bf jay went to mcdonalds late one night, through the 24 hour drive thru, and NO ONE THERE SPOKE ENGLISH. beyond the names of the foods, they knew nothing. we ended up going to another mcdonalds, where everyone spoke english :)

i hate it when people who dont speak english get miffed at my inability to speak THEIR language. in AMERICA. at the old photo lab i worked at, sometimes i'd be asked for help in broken broken english and then be given a look of derision for not knowing how to explain better in a language other than my own.
that's what Luis was good for. he was the maintenence/janitor guy. he was applying for citezenship. but he asked me to help him with some of the answers to some questions he was studying. i felt really bad for it, but i didn't help him. if he can't figure out what the capital of the state he's trying to live in is, then there's not much i can really do.
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At least he was trying to earn his citizenship. You deserve to feel bad for not helping him. Hell...I don't know the capitals of every state, ash. All I know is this...if someone truly needs help, as a human being, you should help them as best you can. :shrug: You never know when you will be the one needing help.
 
i didn't think it was my place to. and it wasnt all the states he was asking me for the capitals of. it was maryland. where we live. do you know what your state capitol is? i know mine. also, there are these marvelous inventions called books.
 
plus. he told me he was taking a test, and from my experience with every test i have ever taken, usually consulting others for the answers isn't really the thing to do. if it were in school that would be called cheating.
 
ash r said:
i didn't think it was my place to. and it wasnt all the states he was asking me for the capitals of. it was maryland. where we live. do you know what your state capitol is? i know mine. also, there are these marvelous inventions called books.
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But you also stated that he didn't have a real good grasp of the lingo. That's the part I was disagreeing with.

BTW...The capital of PA is Harrisburg, the capital of NY is Albany, the capital of WV is Charleston, the capital of VA is Richmond, the capital of AK is Juneau, the capital of AZ is Tucson, the capital of GA is Macon...I remember more of these than I thought, but you get the piccy. He's not from MD, though, is he? He may live there now, but where was he from originally?
 
In 1863, Arizona was organized as a separate territory, with its first, temporary capital at Fort Whipple. Prescott became the capital in 1865. Charles D. Poston, who had worked to achieve Arizona's new status, was elected as the territory's first delegate to the U.S. Congress. The capital was moved to Tucson in 1867, back to Prescott in 1877, and finally to Phoenix in 1889.
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He was trying, Ash. I'll usually try to lend a hand if you're trying. It's the sitting-on-yer-ass, waiting-for-a-handout crowd I could give a damn for. Come to think of it, that applies to more than illegals.

If he was trying for citizenship, I'd lay odds he's here legally.
 
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