Einsteins Theory of Relativity

[BeardofPants]

And on that note...

Star Trekking, across the universe
On the Starship Enterprise, under Captain Kirk
Star Trekking, across the universe
Boldly going forward, 'cause we can't find reverse

Lt. Uhura, report

There's Klingons on the starboard bow
Starboard bow, starboard bow
There's Klingons on the starboard bow
Starboard bow, Jim

Analysis, Mr. Spock

It's life, Jim, but not as we know it
Not as we know it, not as we know it
It's life, Jim, but not as we know it
Not as we know it, Captain

There's Klingons on the starboard bow
Starboard bow, starboard bow
There's Klingons on the starboard bow
Starboard bow, Jim

Star Trekking, across the universe
On the Starship Enterprise, under Captain Kirk
Star Trekking, across the universe
Boldly going forward, still can't find reverse

Medical update, Doctor McCoy!

It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim
Dead, Jim. Dead, Jim
It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim
Dead, Jim, Dead

It's life, Jim, but not as we know it
Not as we know it, not as we know it
It's life, Jim, but not as we know it
Not as we know it, Captain

There's Klingons on the starboard bow
Starboard bow, starboard bow
There's Klingons on the starboard bow
Starboard bow, Jim

Starship Captain, James T. Kirk

Ha-ha! We come in peace, shoot to kill
Shoot to kill, shoot to kill
We come in peace, shoot to kill
shoot to kill, men

It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim
Dead, Jim. Dead, Jim
It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim
Dead, Jim, Dead

Well it's life, Jim, but not as we know it
Not as we know it, not as we know it
It's life, Jim, but not as we know it
Not as we know it, Captain

There's Klingons on the starboard bow
Starboard bow, starboard bow
There's Klingons on the starboard bow
Scrape 'em off Jim

Star Trekking, across the universe
On the Starship Enterprise, under Captain Kirk
Star Trekking, across the universe
Boldly going forward, and things are getting worse

Engine room, Mister Scott

Ye canna change the laws of physics
Laws of physics, laws of physics
Ye canna change the laws of physics
Laws of physics, Jim

We come in peace, shoot to kill
Shoot to kill, shoot to kill
We come in peace, shoot to kill
Scotty beam me up

It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim
Dead, Jim. Dead, Jim
It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim
Dead, Jim, Dead

Well it's life, Jim, but not as we know it
Not as we know it, not as we know it
It's life, Jim, but not as we know it
Not as we know it, Captain

There's Klingons on the starboard bow
Starboard bow, starboard bow
There's Klingons on the starboard bow
Starboard bow Jim

Ye canny change the scourge jim oh see you jimmy
Bridge to engine room, warp factor nine
If I give her anymore she'll blow

Star Trekking, across the universe
On the Starship Enterprise, under Captain Kirk
Star Trekking, across the universe
Boldly going forward, 'cause we can't find reverse
Star Trekking, across the universe
On the Starship Enterprise, under Captain Kirk
Star Trekking, across the universe
Boldly going forward, 'cause we can't find reverse...

 

[staffrodore]

Light travels faster then sound....

maybe that's why some people appear bright until they open their mouths.

 

[catocom]

You mean you can't shit at the speed of light????

So if you shit "faster" than the speed of light, does it change back into food?

 

[tonksy]

So if you shit "faster" than the speed of light, does it change back into food?

if it changes back into food did you really eat it? i sense a new diet trend.

 

[chcr]

Sorry I "brought it up."

Here, I'll save you the trouble.

 

[IDLEchild]

maybe that's why some people appear bright until they open their mouths.

 

[IDLEchild]

Well there is still the theorized quantum particle Tachyon (spelling?)...they can supposedly travel thousands of time faster than light or the ever popular wormhole theory.

 

[Inkara1]

The problem with shitting at the speed of light is that a turd that's moving with that kind of velovity would make a pretty hefty splash in the toilet, meaning your ass would get all wet.

 

[chcr]

Actually, at the speed of light, mass becomes infinite (as staffrodore pointed out). I think getting your ass wet at that point would be the least of your worries (must be one of those "ate too much pizza, drank too much beer" shits, huh?).

 

[Gato_Solo]

I think you should ask Stephen Hawking about that...

Light travels faster then sound....

maybe that's why some people appear bright until they open their mouths.

 

[chcr]

I think you should ask Stephen Hawking about that...

I would if I could get him to answer the phone.

 

[Sleeping Giant]

states that the closer to the speed of light you get, time slows down. So if you go faster than light do you travel back in time??

Time is relative, but to make this easy, let's say that time goes by at a fixed pace for you, and time goes by at a fixed pace for your locale. Ordinarily, as you move around your locale by walking or driving, these two time paces would appear to be identical; in other words, time would appear to pass at the same rate for you and where you are (this is not the actual truth, but at such relatively slow speeds as walking and driving, the difference is so incredibly miniscule that it's unnoticable).

Now suppose you start to move around your locale at an super fast speed, some significant fraction of the speed of light. To you, time would appear to be passing at the same rate it always has. To others who were left behind in your locale, time appears to be passing by at the same rate it always has. However, time in the temporal bubble in which you and your vehicle exist is actually going by at a slower rate than it is in the locale you've left behind. If you were to just fly around in circles at your super fast speed, and you did so for, say, one year, as measured by an internal chronometer, and then stopped and rejoined everyone else, you would find that, for them, a little more than one year has passed (or maybe a lot more, depending on how fast you were going).

No matter how fast you go, time will always move forward for you, and time will always move forward for everyone else, though the rates may be different. For the purpose of this discussion, there is no going "faster than light". The reason for this is that you specifically refer to Einstein's Theory of Relativity (EToR). The EToR specifies that faster than light speed, or even moving at the speed of light itself (for anything other than light, of course) is not possible.

However, it is interesting to note that, despite his EToR, Einstein himself did indeed postulate that it is possible to get from Point A to Point B in less time that it would take light. How can you get from one point to another point quicker than light can without actually going as fast as light? Answer: By taking a path that is more direct. Now you may think that light travels in a straight line, but this is only true in our own perception of reality. Up until now, we were talking about the EToR, but now, we need to look at another of Einstein's theories, his Special Theory of Relativity (ESToR).

The easiest way for me to explain this is with a description I once read elsewhere. Take an ordinary piece of letter paper as an example. Draw two dots, one at each end of the paper, and mark one "A" and the other "B". Now imagine that this paper represents a two-dimensional plane of existence; there is no depth. A creature living in this plane would be aware of A and B. If we draw a straight line connecting these two points, that would be, to the two dimensional creature, the quickest path to get from A to B. However, we, living in three dimensions, can take that piece of paper and fold it over, curving it, bring the two ends close together and making a "U" shape out of it. The two ends are now very close together, and we can see that there's a quicker way to get from A to B, which is not along the paper itself, but rather by jumping the gap between the two ends. The two-dimensional creature will be unable to see this path, or, even if it can conceive of the existence of the path, would by practically unable to use it.

In a similar manner, if more than just three dimensions exist, it is possible that there could be made similar shortcuts between two points, by folding, or "warping", our three dimensions in the fourth dimension (just as the 2D sheet was warped in the third dimension). The last time I read up on this stuff, it appeared to scientists that deliberately creating a space warp would take an incredible amount of energy. Amounts of energy that would better be measured on a solar, or possibly even galactic, scale, and even if the energy could be found and tapped, as yet nobody has any idea how to apply it and actually make it work.

So, you see, the upshot of all this is that (in theory, anyway) the speed of light IS unsurpassable; nothing can ever go that fast or faster. However, it's still possible (in theory, anyway) to beat light from one point to another...But, you would have never gone faster than light, you would have only bent space.

 

[Professur]

To simplfy. Energy equals Mass times a constant. Space is more than three dimensional. Gravity is relative to Mass. Therefore Gravity is relative to Energy. Gravity warps (bends) Space. Higher Energy warps Space more.

Imaging standing on a tarp, over a pool full of Jello. The more you mass, the bigger the impression you make. You can still move around some, but closer to the edges, you can't because the grade is too steep. The more you mass, the less area you have to move about. Achieve enough mass, and you rip through the bottom, and land in the jello. But if you can add energy, without adding mass, you can jump right outta the pool. The problem is that everytime we try to jump, we still add mass, and therefore, actually just push down the tarp, and we don't go anywhere. So we need to either stop space from warping when we add energy (surpass the speed of light) or find a way to separate mass and energy.

Theory: Surpassing a certain Energy level will warp space beyond it's integrity, and one of two things will happen. A Rift (wormhole, etc) will form. Or the entire Space/Time will rupture.

 

[Winky]

Yes Prof and the research currently being done at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider and other places will perhaps one day give us the knowledge to wield energies of such magnitude that we may be able to warp space or neutralize the mass of a spaceship!


The knowledge that will come out of this will make Einstein’s work seem as quaint as Newton's

 

[chcr]

Or the entire Space/Time will rupture.

Let's just ignore that one for now.

 

[Winky]

If a black hole is a star mass that has torn through the fabric of space then ruptures aren't a big deal.

On the other hand...

 

[chcr]

If a black hole is a star mass that has torn through the fabric of space then ruptures aren't a big deal.

On the other hand...

Yeah, we don't have all the physics we need yet. Like you said earlier though, they're working on it.

 

[Inkara1]

Actually, at the speed of light, mass becomes infinite (as staffrodore pointed out). I think getting your ass wet at that point would be the least of your worries (must be one of those "ate too much pizza, drank too much beer" shits, huh?).

Ah, good point... then your ass would get wet AND you'd shatter the toilet.

 

[Professur]

If a black hole is a star mass that has torn through the fabric of space then ruptures aren't a big deal.

Actually, the black hole's gravity could be holding the edges of the tear static along the event horizon. There could be all kinds of damage accumulating on the other side, but it's just not able to get out. A man made rift's mass couldn't be held constant, and the rift would propagate once infinite mass was reduced.

 

[Winky]

Resulting in either their stuff flowing into our space or our stuff into their space.
Then there is the classic matter anti-matter annihilation concept. Personally I'd rather believe there is more order, a symmetry if you will, to the universe.

Yep that's it the Universe has slime fix-a-flat rolling around in it and is self sealing