Giving Gun Owners A Bad Rep
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BlurOfSerenity
New Member
haha, looks like they just went to a gun show and bought every.single.sticker.
i think that if you're into stickers, 1-2 stickers about ANY cause is ample. clearly this guy doesn't realize we got the point after the first sticker or two!
i think that if you're into stickers, 1-2 stickers about ANY cause is ample. clearly this guy doesn't realize we got the point after the first sticker or two!
Frodo
Member
I personally feel that there are three caveats/provisos to the second amendment:
1) The requirement to be trained is not an infringement upon the right to keep and bear arms.
2) A registry of gun owners does violate the original intent of the second amendment.
3) This right along with any other right can be taken away through due process.
With those three things in mind, I would be all for requiring gun safety courses in order to posses a firearm. You take the course and get a credit card sized certificate. Get caught with a firearm and no safety course and it is a misdemeanor. You then set up a national data base for all those that have lost their right to posses a firearm. Get caught with a firearm while you are on the list and it is a felony. There is no need to track who has a firearm, just track the people that can not have a firearm.
Unfortunately, I don't think this idea would be popular with either side of the issue.
1) The requirement to be trained is not an infringement upon the right to keep and bear arms.
2) A registry of gun owners does violate the original intent of the second amendment.
3) This right along with any other right can be taken away through due process.
With those three things in mind, I would be all for requiring gun safety courses in order to posses a firearm. You take the course and get a credit card sized certificate. Get caught with a firearm and no safety course and it is a misdemeanor. You then set up a national data base for all those that have lost their right to posses a firearm. Get caught with a firearm while you are on the list and it is a felony. There is no need to track who has a firearm, just track the people that can not have a firearm.
Unfortunately, I don't think this idea would be popular with either side of the issue.
The only way to take this away is to change the Constitution.
Professur
Well-Known Member
I was under the impression that the whole point of the second amendment was to prevent rights being taken away by any process, due or otherwise.
Frodo
Member
Yep, that is what I was referring to. Thanks.
2minkey
bootlicker
yeah not sure where gonz was going with that one. he seems to think everything has something to do with the constitution. like, uh, he could give you a lecture on what the constitution has to do with teen pregnancy.
smurf uprising? it's about the constitution.
anal warts? it's a constitutional issue.
smurf uprising? it's about the constitution.
anal warts? it's a constitutional issue.
Professur
Well-Known Member
I thought that was a congressional issue.
Felons can't have guns? That sounds rather stupid. A criminal isn't going to worry excessively about the legalities of owning a gun in the first place, and it opens the door to cutting off any gun possession or use simply by making the registration process so difficult that noone's able to properly complete it. Since owning an unregistered gun is a felony ... voila.
Pretty fucking gullible if you ask me.
Anything that is from the government is Constitution related. It is the be all & end all of the federal powers. Too bad we the people have forgotten that part.
2minkey
bootlicker
really? guess i'm in BIG trouble then eh?
and, BTW smarty pants, nobody said that felons don't obtain guns, regardless of legality.
JTP
New Member
"I would be all for requiring gun safety courses in order to posses a firearm. You take the course and get a credit card sized certificate. Get caught with a firearm and no safety course and it is a misdemeanor. You then set up a national data base for all those that have lost their right to posses a firearm. Get caught with a firearm while you are on the list and it is a felony. There is no need to track who has a firearm, just track the people that can not have a firearm". - FRODO
Great idea, Frodo. In this state, there is a Firearms Safety Course for teenagers to take before they can get a hunting license. I took it years ago, and it was nothing Pa didn't already teach, but some teens don't have the benefit of a good family guide. Not their fault, so the state gives some training. Tax money well-spent if it reduces hunting accidents.
Great idea, Frodo. In this state, there is a Firearms Safety Course for teenagers to take before they can get a hunting license. I took it years ago, and it was nothing Pa didn't already teach, but some teens don't have the benefit of a good family guide. Not their fault, so the state gives some training. Tax money well-spent if it reduces hunting accidents.
Professur
Well-Known Member
2minkey
bootlicker
in WA state you can buy a handgun in a private party transaction without nobody knowing nothing.
in almost all US states the private party sale of long guns, within a single state, is virtually unregulated, as it should be.
the problem of safety, though extremely important, should not be handled by any government agency. all firearms should remain a private matter. just like whatever happens in the bedroom. youz want anybody having lists?
in almost all US states the private party sale of long guns, within a single state, is virtually unregulated, as it should be.
the problem of safety, though extremely important, should not be handled by any government agency. all firearms should remain a private matter. just like whatever happens in the bedroom. youz want anybody having lists?
spike
New Member
Yet strangely he supports clearly anti-Constitutional measures whenever it's convenient.