Global Warming

[spike]

They have bones of something arranged in a pattern. Give me enough bones and I can build anything you want.

Wow. I didn't realize there were actually people that didn't believe in dinosaurs.

How's that work for you? I mean when archeologists and scientists and most other people agree that they existed and identify different species what evidence do you use to convince yourself that they didn't.

It's not even like you seem as if you think maybe they didn't exist in exactly the same bone arrangement but I think your saying you are sure there were none at all.

So, you look at a big T-Rex skull and what?

Science? A useful pursuit without question. As a means of explaining the genesis of life...useless.

Actually they do pretty good.

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

Don't even ask my opinion of the moon landing either.

 

[Gonz]

Man may or may not be contributing to a change in the weather. I find it highly unlikely. We just aren't that godlike.

Cycles have come & gone. Ice ages. Warming periods. CHanges to individual areas. It seems that Egypt was once a green & fertile area. What happened?

So, in the interest of paranoia, let's start all kinds of new experiments meant to stop whatever problem we may or may not be contributing. Then, in 10, 50, 100 years, we can scream & cry over the unintended consequences of actions we can not foresse.

A two degree rise means Canada starts growing corn. A two degree drop means Michigan stops growing corn. A little warmth never hurt anyone. It changes the zip code for fertile ground.

 

[chcr]

You say it's not an emergency yet that is an empty claim. Many people that I'm guessing are much more informed on the subject are disagreeing with you.

People with a vested interest. There are also people more informed than I assume you are who say it's so much bullshit. As always, I suspect the truth lies in between. The fact that the average temperature has been rising is pretty evident (although methodolgy and observation have improved exponentially over the same period which may contribute to the variance). The idea that we caused it or can prevent it is laughable at best. I suspect we've contributed, but if we stopped tomorrow the temperature would continue rising. We wouldn't much care because there'd be darned few of us left after the world war incited by the collapse of the world economy and infrastructure.

Now, do you have a workable, intelligent plan that you or any climatologist will guarantee to correct the problem?

Wow. I didn't realize there were actually people that didn't believe in dinosaurs.

Man, you need to get out more. There are a lot of people who either a) don't belive they existed or b) believe humans and dinosaurs coexisted.

 

[spike]

People with a vested interest.

What vested interest does the IPCC have?

The idea that we caused it or can prevent it is laughable at best.

The idea we couldn't have caused it or can't do anything about it is ridiculous.

Now, do you have a workable, intelligent plan that you or any climatologist will guarantee to correct the problem?

Future reports from the IPCC will focus on impacts and strategies for mitigation, culminating in November in a summation of their findings.

Man, you need to get out more. There are a lot of people who either a) don't belive they existed or b) believe humans and dinosaurs coexisted.

I've heard of b) but not of a)

I'd really like to hear how that works. Really, what would convince someone to be sure that there were no dinosaurs?

What is this then?

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

I dunno. What do you think it is?

 

[spike]

A T-Rex skull.

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

Really.

How big is the item in your photo? And how do you arrive at that conclusion? Because it could be anywhere from 1/2 inch up. There is nothing in the photo to indicate scale.

You believe this to be the skull of some creature you have personally never laid eyes on. How do you reach this preposterous position? Because they told you? You have that much faith? You place your trust that blindly? Just because someone told you these enormous monsters lived, and that this is a skull of one, you buy that sight unseen?

Interesting. Do tell me more.

 

[MrBishop]

Having seen one in person and laid hands on one (not a plaster casting, but the real deal), I can pretty much assure you that these things exist (fossils), that they're not elaborate carvings or other fraudery, that they're friggin' huge and speak volumes about what used to exist but died out.

I've been lucky enough to be given access to archaeological finds (physical, not theoretical findings, that is). It was part of my study.

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

This is the only T. Rex I know for certainty to have existed.

The skulls do not look similar to me.

 

[BB]

you'll allow the existence of rock dinosaurs then ...

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[SouthernN'Proud]

Oh of course. They're all we have left.

 

[chcr]

I'd really like to hear how that works. Really, what would convince someone to be sure that there were no dinosaurs?

You declare yourself an expert on the subject. Plenty of sheep will jump on the bandwagon. Happens almost daily.

 

[BB]

who cleans the bandwagon? - that's what i always wonder...

 

[chcr]

who cleans the bandwagon? - that's what i always wonder...

As long as I don't have to clean up after the horses...

 

[spike]

Really.

How big is the item in your photo? And how do you arrive at that conclusion? Because it could be anywhere from 1/2 inch up. There is nothing in the photo to indicate scale.

Like MrBishop I've seen the real deal in person. They're huge. You can go to museum and see them too if you want.

You believe this to be the skull of some creature you have personally never laid eyes on. How do you reach this preposterous position? Because they told you? You have that much faith? You place your trust that blindly?

I have laid eyes on the skull. What the hell else would it be? There's enormous amounts of evidence and consensus on the subject. Where is the convincing arguement that would make someone sure that they didn't?

Because you haven't seen a live one? Is that it?

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

Like MrBishop I've seen the real deal in person. They're huge. You can go to museum and see them too if you want.

You have seen a real dinosaur. Fascinating.

I have laid eyes on the skull. What the hell else would it be?

It could be any manner of thing. It could be an elaborate movie set concoction. They do amazing things with plaster these days you know. For all I personally know as fact, it could be most anything. Just because someone says it's a bone from a creature I have never seen doesn't mean it is.

There's enormous amounts of evidence and consensus on the subject.

There's enormous amounts of evidence and concensus that Orenthal James Simpson murdered his ex wife too. That don't put him in prison. I could speak at nauseating length on a number of subjects about which there is enormous amounts of evidence. That doesn't seem to carry much weight though.

Where is the convincing arguement that would make someone sure that they didn't?

Because you haven't seen a live one? Is that it?

I am not sure either way. That's why I say I don't believe they existed. 90 foot lizards are pretty far fetched though, would you not agree? I mean, I stopped believing in Godzilla years ago. Thought most people had in fact.

So, how big IS that item in your photo? I have no way to judge scale on it. Three inches? Forty feet? Who knows? One's as plausible as the other, no? Or is that something else I should just believe?






90 foot lizards. Indeed.

 

[spike]

It could be any manner of thing. It could be an elaborate movie set concoction. They do amazing things with plaster these days you know. For all I personally know as fact, it could be most anything. Just because someone says it's a bone from a creature I have never seen doesn't mean it is.

It can easily tested (and they have been) and determined whether it is bone or plaster. Do you also not believe the earth is round since you haven't personally seen it from space and scientists are just telling you it's round?

Wait...you're not a flat-earther too are you?

There's enormous amounts of evidence and concensus that Orenthal James Simpson murdered his ex wife too. That don't put him in prison. I could speak at nauseating length on a number of subjects about which there is enormous amounts of evidence. That doesn't seem to carry much weight though.

So you don't believe OJ did it now either. The real question is where is the evidence refuting that dinosaurs existed? There's a bunch of evidence that they did, even physical proof. So if you refuse to believe it there must be some counter evidence.

I am not sure either way. That's why I say I don't believe they existed. 90 foot lizards are pretty far fetched though, would you not agree? I mean, I stopped believing in Godzilla years ago. Thought most people had in fact.

You think 90 foot lizards are far fetched. What about 90 foot mammals?

So, how big IS that item in your photo? I have no way to judge scale on it. Three inches? Forty feet? Who knows? One's as plausible as the other, no? Or is that something else I should just believe?

You could always just go to a museum and see the real thing.

90 foot lizards. Indeed.

Just lizards, or any animal?

 

[Gonz]

Global cooling killed the dinosaurs.

Oh, sorry, this is so last decade.

 

[spike]

Dinosaurs were around in the 90's?