If personal firearms were allowed to be carried on base

[Winky]

If personal firearms were allowed bad guys would die.

What did that sig line from days gone by say?
Something about how those building fell
cuz some airline pilots died?

 

[ResearchMonkey]

I';m still convinced that open carry should be the law of the land.

The world is dangerous place, embrace it.

 

[MrBishop]

betting on what might have been, is no bet at all.
Bet on the future....come-on, man up.

Might's well go for broke then. An armed soldier on every corner across the states, plus a concealed-carry permit for every non-Muslim-looking person as well. That'll stop the terror.

 

[catocom]

I don't even know what the crap you are talking about now mr. b

 

[Winky]

Personal firearms abound in the wild wild West!

open carry is legal here
as well as 'shall issue CCW'

 

[Gonz]

Might's well go for broke then. An armed soldier on every corner across the states, plus a concealed-carry permit for every non-Muslim-looking person as well. That'll stop the terror.

Bigot.

 

[Gonz]

Re: Personal firearms abound in the wild wild West!

open carry is legal here
as well as 'shall issue CCW'

AZ is doing CCW now? Cool. It used to be forbidden but open was alright.

 

[Winky]

Oh yeah this is the real deal rootin' tootin' wild west.
Shame though, only the Mexican gang bangers go
round shootin' things up. Us law abiding
white boys need to get out there and start representin'

 

[ResearchMonkey]

We can't open carry in the city. I dunno if its legal in the county, I've never asked. We do it regardless.

 

[jimpeel]

Cute..Lott uses his own paper, based on his own research and conclusions (circa 2000) in order to prove that his arguments are valid now in 2009.

Try finding someone else's research and get back to us, MrLott

When you write the seminal tome on the subject, which is considered the creme de la creme of firearms studies, what else is left? Ya want him to start quoting data from the second place study?

 

[spike]

When you write the seminal tome on the subject, which is considered the creme de la creme of firearms studies

By who?

 

[Winky]

Another solution to the issue.

"Cancer is a strength!" "Pollution is our greatest asset!"

 

[jimpeel]

Re: If personal firearms were allowed bad guys would die.

What did that sig line from days gone by say?
Something about how those building fell
cuz some airline pilots died?

"Three thousand people died on Sept. 11 because eight pilots were killed"
-- former Northwest Airlines pilot Stephen Luckey

 

[jimpeel]

By who?

That's "by whom"; and that would be John Lott. Don't you read post #1?

 

[Winky]

Personal firearms are tools, the right tool for the job.

Thx Buddy, I found that to be one of the most eloquent quotes
regarding the matter in all these years.

Simplicity at it's finest!

 

[spike]

That's "by whom"; and that would be John Lott. Don't you read post #1?

John Lott considers his own writing the seminal tome? What an arrogant dickhead.

 

[jimpeel]

John Lott considers his own writing the seminal tome? What an arrogant dickhead.

Ah, so. So you meant "By whom are the writings of John Lott considered the seminal tome on the subject of firearms crime?"

That would be the entire firearms community at large, criminologists, and legal scholars.

John Lott's book More Guns, Less Crime was even noted by the SCotUS in DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA et al. v. HELLER.

 

[Winky]

Guns in the army WTF?

Well there you go, and his stuff is right to boot!

 

[spike]

That would be the entire firearms community at large, criminologists, and legal scholars.

This looks like one of those claims you're not going to have evidence for.

I doubt most gun owners have ever heard of him and I doubt most criminologists or legal scholars consider his stuff of any importance.

Both Lott's book and his study have been reviewed by academics from a wide range of disciplines from criminology to public health. Many of these scholars found serious, fundamental flaws in Lott's methodology and found his claims to be unsubstantiated. These researchers include Jens Ludwig at Georgetown University; Daniel Black of the University of Kentucky and Daniel Nagin at Carnegie Mellon University; Stephen Teret, Jon Vernick and Daniel Webster, all of Johns Hopkins University; Arthur Kellermann at Emory University; and Douglas Weil at the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence.

Unfortunately, while flaws in his research have been widely documented in scientific literature -- and his findings dismissed by numerous, prominent researchers -- the gun lobby has successfully used Dr. Lott's flawed conclusions to persuade several state legislatures to loosen CCW restrictions in the mid-90's.

Now, after several years in which the nation as a whole has enjoyed a declining crime rate, there is direct evidence that Lott's conclusions are wrong. A 1999 analysis of crime statistics conducted by the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence (CPHV) demonstrates that allowing people to carry concealed handguns does not mean less crime. The Center found that, as a group, states that rely on permissive concealed weapons laws as a crime fighting strategy had a significantly smaller drop in crime than states which looked to other means to combat crime rather than make it easier to obtain a concealed weapons permit.

Much more here:

http://polyticks.com/polyticks/beararms/liars/hgclott.htm

You might also want to check out this.

 

[Cerise]

Uhhhh, I must say: Hassan Chop!!!!


Major Hasan's E-Mail: 'I Can't Wait to Join You' in Afterlife

United States Army Major Nidal Hasan told a radical cleric considered by authorities to be an al-Qaeda recruiter, "I can't wait to join you" in the afterlife, according to an American official with top secret access to 18 e-mails exchanged between Hasan and the cleric, Anwar al Awlaki, over a six month period between Dec. 2008 and June 2009.

"It sounds like code words," said Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, a military analyst at the Center for Advanced Defense Studies. "That he's actually either offering himself up or that he's already crossed that line in his own mind."