Iran Still Not Working on "Nookyaler" Weapons

[ResearchMonkey]

It looks like someone maybe tried to simplify things for you so they weren't too complex. Yet you still didn't latch on since you spew hate in every post. I guess you just aren't religious.

His name is "Jesus Christ", thus the name Christianity. While your post appears to make sense at the lowest levels of simplistic reasoning, its a piss poor evaluation of the practical application. Can you demonstrate the rampant application of old testament violence in today society?

Seems something mystical is clearly alluding your keen insight.


They teach old testament because context matters. This is why you don't understand the COTUS very well. You are confused by simple words like "promote" and "provide", they are not interchangeable. Its why you don't understand that our nation is not intended as a theocracy.



In case you didn't know this, the pro-life stance crosses all belief systems its not unique to Christians. So violence and murder is always terrorism? I'd say it's more akin to being a nut-job; like spiking trees and less so as ecclesiastical Christian responsibility. If you want to label individual violence it as terrorism you should look at domestic violence and fights on school yards too. We won't even discuss the ritualistic sadomasochistic practices of celebrated at the Folsom street fair.

It does make clear where you get your religious education and ideologies from, and why you are so driven to spread the misinformation you covet as your gospel. I understand that you need to destroy the morality you hold in such contempt.



Our founding fathers in their wisdom saw this coming and stated it.

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”

-- President George Washington in his farewell Address, September 17, 1796​

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Clearly the father of nation understood we would face domestic enemies wanting to destroy our great nation, like you.




The Bible teaches about free will and choices, another concept you've proven incapable of understanding, it involves personal responsibility. I don't see any Christian US Congressmen plotting or supporting the killing or blowing up of abortion doctors, your example of terrorism.

I do know a terrorism investigation was blown when the NYPD made contact with a Muslim cleric, a man of the cloth. The Muslim cleric tipped off the terrorist and now we have loose terrorist on the street. Is this problem at Christian churches on main street USA today? No its not.


Sure churches are one place where people discuss peaceful ways to reduce the murder of living unborn children. But if you think that churches regularly are plotting murder and the blowing up buildings you're not very bright.

I didn't know Christian Churches were where murders and terror attacks were planned in the name of Pro-life. I thought it is more a of matter that millions of individual people believe that unborn children were worthy of life, that personal responsibility is more important than murder as a form of birth control.


Giving free health care to all clearly goes against natural law; Darwin, evolution and natural selection, health care is unnatural and non-green. Health care is not a right, life is and personal choices on how to live that life is. (freedom)


The fact that we we were created a Christian Nation is a complex thought you've proven incapable of understanding. I will not bother to explain what has been clearly explained to you many times. I'll again defer you to the founding fathers (which will completely allude you yet again)

“The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. . . . I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and the attributes of God.”

-- President John Adams in a letter to scribe of the COTUS President Thomas Jefferson, June 28, 1813​

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"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers. And it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."

-- John Jay, first chief justice of the SCOTUS and signer of the COTUS, February 28, 1797​

• THREE men who signed the COTUS
• TWO United Stated Presidents.
• ONE first Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
• And "IN God We Trust".

I'd bet the founding fathers know a tad more about their intention than you and the progressive liberal retards ever will.



I don't expect you to track down dead people. I'll settle for the daily headlines where the Christians hordes are roaming down main street USA stoning the butt-fuckers and non-believers

Unless you can show the consistent applications of your argument in society, it is complete fantasy on your part.

Better run! Crazy old Fred Phelps is gonna git you!




After years of reading your drivel, it is clear we have ideological differences.

• I love my Christian Nation as it was designed. With personal freedoms being the law of the land.
• You desire an ObamaNation intended on subverting my nation and it principals with national socialism. Where personal freedoms are stolen in the name of social justice.

For your vision to happen my nation must be destroyed, therein lies our conflict.

 

[spike]

His name is "Jesus Christ", thus the name Christianity.

I think we all know that. Not sure what your point is.

Can you demonstrate the rampant application of old testament violence in today society?

It's not clear sometimes if violence by christians is based on old testament or new testament. I would guess gay bashing is old testament.

They teach old testament because context matters.

No, many christian religions teach old testament because they believe. Jesus told them to.

"Jesus believed that the Old Testament was divinely inspired, the veritable Word of God. He said, "The Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35). He referred to Scripture as "the commandment of God" (Matthew 15:3) and as the "Word of God" (Matthew 15:6). He also indicated that it was indestructible: "Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished" (Matthew 5:18). "

Its why you don't understand that our nation is not intended as a theocracy.

You made that up. I never said our nation is intended as a theocracy.

Straw man.

In case you didn't know this, the pro-life stance crosses all belief systems its not unique to Christians.

I do know this. In fact the pro-choice stance crosses all belief systems. Many christians are pro-choice.

So violence and murder is always terrorism?

No. Terrorism.

I'd say it's more akin to being a nut-job; like spiking trees and less so as ecclesiastical Christian responsibility. If you want to label individual violence it as terrorism you should look at domestic violence and fights on school yards too. We won't even discuss the ritualistic sadomasochistic practices of celebrated at the Folsom street fair.

"The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons."

Abortion bombers qualify, domestic violence probably not, school yards probably not. Folsom street is consensual so no.

It does make clear where you get your religious education and ideologies from, and why you are so driven to spread the misinformation you covet as your gospel. I understand that you need to destroy the morality you hold in such contempt.

You mean raised catholic and studying many religions? What misinformation? I'm not trying to destroy any morality. Just having an adult discussion.

Our founding fathers in their wisdom saw this coming and stated it.

He may have been wrong there. Clearly religion does not equate with morality. You spew more hate than any non-religious person I know.

The Bible teaches about free will and choices, another concept you've proven incapable of understanding, it involves personal responsibility. I don't see any Christian US Congressmen plotting or supporting the killing or blowing up of abortion doctors, your example of terrorism.

I like free will and choices. I'm for more choices like the public option, yet you want to stifle free will and choices. I don't see any Muslim US Congressmen plotting or supporting any killing or blowing up of anything in America.

I do know a terrorism investigation was blown when the NYPD made contact with a Muslim cleric, a man of the cloth. The Muslim cleric tipped off the terrorist and now we have loose terrorist on the street. Is this problem at Christian churches on main street USA today? No its not.

Really? Do you know that no Christian preacher has ever tipped off an abortion bomber. What does one example that you didn't actually support prove?

Sure churches are one place where people discuss peaceful ways to reduce the murder of living unborn children. But if you think that churches regularly are plotting murder and the blowing up buildings you're not very bright.

Sure churches in the US are one place where sometimes people discuss violent ways to terrorize abortion clinics. But if you think Mosques in the US regularly are plotting blowing up buildings you're not very bright.

I didn't know Christian Churches were where murders and terror attacks were planned in the name of Pro-life.

I'm sorry about that. They even want the president dead.

Giving free health care to all clearly goes against natural law; Darwin, evolution and natural selection

Wow, that is the most extremist argument against healthcare I've seen yet. It's not rational but definitely the most extremist.

If you wanted to go that direction you'd have to take it more extreme. Nobody gets healthcare. See who survives. Cancer? No treatment, clearly inferior genes. Die.

The fact that we we were created a Christian Nation is a complex thought you've proven incapable of understanding.

Sorry no.

"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"

Jefferson:

Thomas Jefferson 3rd president, Drafted Declaration of Independence, Signer of Constitution, influential on 1st Amendment


"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."

"Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies."

"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites."

More info with quotes from the founders here..
http://bmccreations.com/one_nation/nation.html

I don't expect you to track down dead people. I'll settle for the daily headlines where the Christians hordes are roaming down main street USA stoning the butt-fuckers and non-believers

I'll settle for the daily headlines where the Muslim hordes are roaming down main street USA stoning the butt-fuckers and non-believers.

• I love my Christian Nation as it was designed. With personal freedoms being the law of the land.
• You desire an ObamaNation intended on subverting my nation and it principals with national socialism. Where personal freedoms are stolen in the name of social justice.

• I love my Secular Nation as it was designed. With personal freedoms being the law of the land.
• You desire an BushNation intended on subverting my nation and it principals with national fascism. Where personal freedoms are stolen in the name of justice. See Patriot Act, wire tapping, habeas corpus, indefinite detention of citizens.

For your vision my nation must be destroyed.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Seems your finding arguments as to why we are not a theocracy as many had hopes of creating.

You are entertaining, and Rome you loves you for it.

 

[spike]

Seems your finding arguments as to why we are not a theocracy as many had hopes of creating.

This just seems like a bizarre comment. Who are these "many" that hoped to create a theocracy? I haven't heard about them.Giving free health care to all clearly goes against natural law; Darwin, evolution and natural selection

Back to this.."Giving free health care to all clearly goes against natural law; Darwin, evolution and natural selection "

It should be noted that none of the current healthcare bills have ever been about "Giving free healthcare to all". So it seems you're not very familiar with what is proposed. However many countries do that to great effect and rank much higher than us in efficiency and effectiveness.

It's certainly an interesting perspective and I think it deserves it's own offshoot thread.

 

[Frodo]

It's not clear sometimes if violence by christians is based on old testament or new testament. I would guess gay bashing is old testament.

I did not see any reference to their religion other than your stereotype assumptions. It does sound like these guys got what they were looking for though.

we had devised a plan whereby we would each try to get the others killed.

We would each decorate the others’ vehicles with slogans we felt might stir up the feelings of the locals, cause maximum discomfort to each driver and raise a laugh for the viewer at home.

 

[spike]

I did not see any reference to their religion other than your stereotype assumptions.

Fair. They didn't say I'm christian and I hate you.

So I assume same standards?

It is freakin' amazing that they found what they were looking for th

 

[MrBishop]

Raptor Jezus has the Final Word, in the belief system named after him. He states that all previous scripture can be summed up in two commands: Love God with all your heart, soul and mind; and love your neighbor as yourself.

So, if you happened to be reading Psalms and it advocates bashing children's skulls against the rocks: be forewarned. It ain't Christian. Per Christ. Your neighbor may be defined as, "whoever you wish to do violence to."

Makes one wonder how Christians get off slagging homosexuals or denying the use of birth control considering where those two gems are from, eh.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Makes one wonder how Christians get off slagging homosexuals or denying the use of birth control considering where those two gems are from, eh.

Who? the Catholics?

Yeah, Catholics are a nutty bunch IMHO. My wife had experience with them growing up, it made her somewhat bitter toward religion for a period of her life. I'm not a big fan of organized religion, I have never seen one that matches my personal belief system where God is not an egomaniac.

I've heard lots of little boys raised under Catholicism were sometimes touched by bad men hiding behind the clothe, sometimes those kids developed a rational where homosexual abuse = love. Sad really.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

No, many christian religions teach old testament because they believe. Jesus told them to.

Sure churches in the US are one place where sometimes people discuss violent ways to terrorize abortion clinics.

it's weird how he ignores that most US liberals are actually christian.

Goddamn those Christian liberal terrorist planning violent ways to terrorize abortion clinics.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

I'll settle for the daily headlines where the Muslim hordes are roaming down main street USA stoning the butt-fuckers and non-believers.

It's everywhere everyday in the news. One would have to make an effort to avoid the truth of the matter to not know this.

Thursday, September 24, 2009 -- HOMELAND SECURITY

Police May Have Inadvertently Tipped Off Terrorism Suspect

Police acting without the FBI's knowledge might have inadvertently helped blow the surveillance of a terrorism suspect and compromised a bomb plot investigation at a sensitive stage by questioning an imam about him, a criminal complaint suggests.

16 September 2009 -- BBC

Anti-terrorism probe widens in US

FBI agents have searched a home of a man near Denver, Colorado, as part of a major anti-terrorism investigation.

Oct 5, 2009 -- CNN

Texas terror suspect made video for bin Laden, FBI says

Texas terrorism suspect Hosam Smadi recorded a seven-minute video message for al Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden before his arrest on charges of plotting to blow up a Dallas building, an FBI agent testified Monday.

Smadi, a 19-year-old Jordanian living in the United States illegally, is charged with plotting to set off a bomb at the base of the 60-story Fountain Plaza office tower in downtown Dallas.

OCTOBER 1, 2009 -- WSJ, MICHAEL B. MUKASEY

Intelligence Averts Another Attack
Why do Democrats in Congress want to change key laws that have helped to discover terrorist plots?

OK, I'll admit it, they're not throwing rocks.




In the interest of fairness, not all terrorism is committed in the name of Islam.

Friday, October 02, 2009 -- Fox News

Texas Man in Custody on Federal Arson Charges With Possible Eco-Terrorism Link

A Texas man was arrested this week on federal charges stemming from an arson at a construction site that may have ties to eco-terrorism, according to a criminal complaint.

Earth Liberation Front, an environmental extremist group.

He must be a Christian church goer.

 

[Gonz]

His name is "Jesus Christ",

I thought his name was Jesus & his title is Christ?

 

[ResearchMonkey]

John Smith
Sam Baker
Smokey Bear

I don't who's idea it was, but...

 

[catocom]

I think it's one of those "separate, but together" things

 

[2minkey]

i think it's one of those tooth faerie or santa claus things.

i think i'm going to go into porn and have my screen name be jesus fucking jackhammer christ. think that would be cool?

 

[spike]

It's everywhere everyday in the news. One would have to make an effort to avoid the truth of the matter to not know this.

So you couldn't find any Muslim hordes? I guess we're back to the fact that there's both muslim and christian terrorists in the US.

You don't actually support the christian ones do you?

 

[ResearchMonkey]

So you couldn't find any Muslim hordes? I guess we're back to the fact that there's both muslim and christian terrorists in the US.

Actually it was you that indicated that Christains promote terrorism and constitute a national threat via the practice of the beliefs and teaching of the Bilbe. Singled out individual targets doesn't qualify as national threat like picking random building and indiscriminately killing as many people as possible does qualify.

ENOUGH! Gonz

 

[spike]

Actually it was you that indicated that Christains promote terrorism and constitute a national threat via the practice of the beliefs and teaching of the Bilbe. Singled out individual targets doesn't qualify as national threat like picking random building and indiscriminately killing as many people as possible does qualify.

Any kind of terrorism constitutes a threat that should be addressed whether it's christian or muslim.

So, eat-a-dick shit head.

There ya go.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Any kind of terrorism constitutes a threat that should be addressed whether it's christian or muslim.

Your child like tantrums and idiotic logic spread across the forum does nothing to reframe the original premise of the argument. It only shows you are an idiot incapable of rational discussion.

 

[spike]

Your child like tantrums and idiotic logic spread across the forum does nothing to reframe the original premise of the argument. It only shows you are an idiot incapable of rational discussion.

There was no tantrum and the premise was proven. Could you point out exactly what you trying to make a point about?

It only shows you are an idiot incapable of rational discussion.

I do like that you keep trolling. It makes you look like a kid.

 

[randomJACKASS]

It's only trolling when we do it spike! When he does it it's truth justice and the 'merican way!

Hasn't the past few days taught you anything?!? Jeez