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I was aware that these clinics also provide other services, it just slipped my mind for a moment. I guess I've been influenced by reading too many debates on the topic on rather conservative boards, where they are almost always referred to as "abortion-clinics". My bad. :)
 
MrBishop said:
Anyone think of a good reason why all of these services should be stopped for the sake of stopping one which is decidedly unpopular with the right-wing?
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If they'd stop the unpopular one, there'd be no resistance to public funding for the others, dipshit. Not to mention that abortion isn't family planning at all. It's insurance. Take that away, and your family planning might actually have some meaning.
 
Take away the abortions, invest in coat-hangers?

It's legal, should remain legal, and thus, must be available under safe conditions.
 
Starya said:
I was aware that these clinics also provide other services, it just slipped my mind for a moment. I guess I've been influenced by reading too many debates on the topic on rather conservative boards, where they are almost always referred to as "abortion-clinics". My bad. :)
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Nope, not your bad. Not all do. Many here are just that, and only that.
 
Gato_Solo said:
Sorry. I'm not buying that. If that were the case, then one out of every 26 people would have been born out-of-wedlock. Remember...we're not talking about children from a divorced couple, here. We're talking about teen pregnancy. As for Staffrodore's case, I'd say it's rare. I'll also ask this...how did his grandparents figure into this equation? In cases like his, the family unit also has the grandparents involved. If they weren't[/I] involved, his case is extrememly rare.
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I disagree. I think the cases like staffrodore's are much more common, they simply don't make good press. I don't understand where you get that 1 out of 26 people would have been born out of wedlock though. What I'm saying is that 1 out of 25 of teen pregnancies become the horror stories that the media want to shove down your throat. Most teen girls I've known who got pregnant had family support (they were pissed, sure) and went on with their lives, or got married to the other gamete donor. Note that I don't condone it and in fact think it's stupid, but I don't think the situation is nearly as bad as the media would have you believe.
 
Professur said:
But not publicly funded.
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So...as long as it's paid for 100% by the woman involved, you have no issues with Abortion?

We'll make a pro-choicer out of you yet :D
 
Professur said:
If they'd stop the unpopular one, there'd be no resistance to public funding for the others, dipshit. Not to mention that abortion isn't family planning at all. It's insurance. Take that away, and your family planning might actually have some meaning.
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There are those who would refuse public-funding for most of those listed above ... sex ed, STDs and AIDS testing being the most obvious. No matter what the issue is... someone's going to be against it in one shape or form.

Dipshit?

c'mon...at least earn the 'report bad post' action.
 
MrBishop said:
So...as long as it's paid for 100% by the woman involved, you have no issues with Abortion?

We'll make a pro-choicer out of you yet :D
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On the contrary. Unfortunately, my opinion alone doesn't make laws. I accept that. But I'll be damned if I'll pay taxes to support murder.
 
Professur said:
Sorry. I was gonna call you a dumbfuck, but someone walked past.
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Shame on you for letting yourself be distracted by something like work. :D

How's lif(e) BTW?
 
Professur said:
Sucks the sweat off a donkey's balls.
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That good, eh?

JAG's sick...again. Fever, sinisitis, ear infection and a cold. Needless to say...I ain't sleeping all that well.
 
Professur said:
Again, or still?
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Again... poor little monster. He HATES that liquid antibiotic and holding him down to give him a nasal saline wash is just a joy!

"No Papa... I wuf you Papa! No Papa" all the while tears rolling out of his eyes - kid's out to break my heart, I swear!
 
I had to do worse when V2.0 and V3.0 had their pnemonias. You'll live. Keep telling him that you love him too, but he needs this to get better. Or does he like being sick?

Or, sometimes you have to go good cop, bad cop on him. "Would you rather have Daddy (or in your case, mommy) do this? He's not going to baby you about it. He'll just stuff it in there."

This is what parenting 101 is all about. You chose it.
 
Anyone think of a good reason why all of these services should be stopped for the sake of stopping one which is decidedly unpopular with the right-wing?
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well said Bish. very well said.



Chic: I disagree but not fully with you. I think Staffrodes mothers case was actually unique in a way. Not saying it is extremely rare but more that most cases the mother would be poor and trying very hard to keep ends together.
 
freako104 said:
Chic: I disagree but not fully with you. I think Staffrodes mothers case was actually unique in a way. Not saying it is extremely rare but more that most cases the mother would be poor and trying very hard to keep ends together.
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Didn't say it was easy, freak. I suspect however, that a lot more succeed than fail. That's been my experience anyway. It's just that the failures look so pathetic on TV. You'll very rarely see a success store in the media.
 
MrBishop said:
So...as long as it's paid for 100% by the woman involved, you have no issues with Abortion?

We'll make a pro-choicer out of you yet :D
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What about in countries with a real health service?...

Here abortion is free (along with any other treatment) for all... as long as it is deemed a suitable option. There is the option of going private however.

So out of the National Insurance payments taken from everyone's wage to fund police, fire, education and health services... everyone is essentially funding abortion along with chemo, appendectomies, C-sections... everything!

Just playing devil's advocate here... I'm intregued.
 
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