Ladies - avoiding the rape

MrBishop

Well-Known Member
A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interviewed on what
They look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts :

1) The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed.They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair . Women with short hair are not common targets.

2) The second thing men look for is clothing ... They will look for women who's clothing is easy to remove quickly . Many of them carry scissors around specifically to cut clothing.

3) They also look for women on their cell phone , searching through their purse or doing other activities while walking because they are off guard and can be easily overpowered.

4) Men are most likely to attack & rape in the early morning, between 5:00a.m. and 8:30a.m.

5) The number one place women are abducted from/attacked is grocery store parking lots . Number two is office parking lots/garages Number three is public restrooms

6) The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to another location where they don't have to worry about getting caught.

7) Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years.

8) If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn't worth it because it will be time-consuming ..

9) These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands.

Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you're not worth it.

10) Several defense mechanisms he taught us are: If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like what time is it, or make general small talk: 'I can't believe it is so cold out here', 'we're in for a bad winter.' Now you've seen their face and could identify them in a line-up; you lose appeal as a target.

11) If someone is coming toward you , hold out your hands in front of you and yell STOP or STAY BACK ! Most of the rapists this man talked to said they'd leave a woman alone if she yelled or showe d that she would not be afraid to fight back. Again, they are looking for an EASY target.

12) If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it and carries it with him wherever he goes,) yell I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY and holding it out will be a deterrent.

13) If someone grabs you , you can't beat them with strength but you can by outsmarting them . If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm (between the elbow and armpit) OR in the upper inner thigh VERY VERY HARD . One woman in a class this guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the ski! n and tore out muscle strands - the guy needed stit ches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as you can stand it; it hurts.

14) After the initial hit, always GO for the GROIN. I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy's parts it is extremely painful You might think that you'll anger the guy and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble and he's out of there.

15) When the guy puts his hands up to you , grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible!. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly.


16) Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of your surroundings , take someone with you if you can and if you see any odd behavior, don't dismiss it, go with your in stincts!!!

You may feel a little silly at the time, but you'd feel much worse if The guy really was trouble.

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

2.Learned this from a tourist guide in New Orleans . If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM .. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or
purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

3.If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy.. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

4.Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating,working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc. DON'T DO THIS!) The predator will be watching you, and this is the
perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

a. If someone is in the car with a gun to your head DO NOT DRIVE OFF, repeat: DO NOT DRIVE OFF! Instead gun the engine and speed into anything, wrecking the car. Your Air Bag will save you. If the person is in the back seat they will get the worst of it. As soon as the car crashes bail out and run. It is better than having them find your body in a remote location.


5. A few! notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:
A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.
B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the
Passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.
C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and
The passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your
car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out.

IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead..)

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot. This is especially true at NIGHT!)

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ.. RUN, preferably in a zig-zag pattern!

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women.. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked 'for help' into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.
 

SouthernN'Proud

Southern Discomfort
One more...

If you are approached while near your car, and you feel that you are in danger, drop instantly to the ground and roll underneath your vehicle. From this vantage point, you can always see the feet of your attacker and thus know his location. You can also stay more than arm's length away from him. As soon as you get there, start yelling like the hounds of Hell are after you. Create all the ruckus you can, thus drawing all the attention you can.
 

MrBishop

Well-Known Member
All this and I forgot to say that the majority of rapes are perpretated by someone you know...family, friend or co-worker.
Not sure of the stats, tho' Though I'm pretty sure that SnP might be more familiar with those numbers than I.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
rapists and date rapists

In the disctionary, under redundant it says see redundant. Date rapists is a bs term.

Armed & prepared. Shoot the SOB in the face.
 

MrBishop

Well-Known Member
In the disctionary, under redundant it says see redundant. Date rapists is a bs term.

So...two people are on a date, getting to know each other etc... On the way back to her place, MrX decides to park somewhere.

She says "No."
He hears "Yes" and takes action.

I don't know what you'd call it, but that's rape.
 

chcr

Too cute for words
So...two people are on a date, getting to know each other etc... On the way back to her place, MrX decides to park somewhere.

She says "No."
He hears "Yes" and takes action.

I don't know what you'd call it, but that's rape.

I think you misunderstood, Bish. Rape is rape whether you're on a date with the woman or drag her screaming into a dark alley. A rapist is a rapist is a rapist. "Date" in no way changes that.
 

BlurOfSerenity

New Member
xposting this like crazy, and emailing it to my mom, who has said shed' just "rather hope nothing happens". i'm in the process of trying to talk sense into her.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
I think you misunderstood, Bish. Rape is rape whether you're on a date with the woman or drag her screaming into a dark alley. A rapist is a rapist is a rapist. "Date" in no way changes that.

That's it.

The adjective doesn't diminish the hurt.
 

MrBishop

Well-Known Member
Not the hurt, but the circumstances.

Far too many people think of rape as 'the guy who leaps out of the bushes at you' as opposed to 'some guy you thought that you knew'.
 

MrBishop

Well-Known Member
Yeah..but not all rapes are sexual. It's often a power-trip...a control issue. Often not involving penetration at all, or nudity even...just pure control.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Yeah..but not all rapes are sexual. It's often a power-trip...a control issue. Often not involving penetration at all, or nudity even...just pure control.

Then it's not rape. Saying a power hungry chump misusing a woman is rape weakens the real term & takes the focus from where it should be.
 

Gato_Solo

Out-freaking-standing OTC member
and scream "FIRE!!!!!!"


....... I learned that in Karate.

Is that also where they should've taught you to ram the 'web' of your thumb and forefinger into the guys throat, or the heel of your palm upwards into his nose?
 

MrBishop

Well-Known Member
Then it's not rape. Saying a power hungry chump misusing a woman is rape weakens the real term & takes the focus from where it should be.

That's why they split it up into types or rape or sexual assault.
The focus should be catching and punishing/stopping as many as possible...not a game of pedantics (that's the lawyer's job).
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
That's why they split it up into types or rape or sexual assault.
The focus should be catching and punishing/stopping as many as possible...not a game of pedantics (that's the lawyer's job).

There is a clear distinction between rape & sexual assault. Which is why terms like Date Rape irritate me. They water down a clear cut term. If you want to change the rules, then change the terms. Don't apply new meanigns to old rules.
 
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