Mopar bankruptcy

Inkara1

Inkara1

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randomJACKASS said:
Well what it really boils down to, is that for years American cars were laughable in comparison to imports. I had and 89 Mitsubishi, and my old lady had a 98 Escort, and I know the Escort motor is made by Mazda, and it's the only thing I liked better about that car. The Escort, with fat high performance tires, didn't handle or hold the road anywhere near as good as the Mitsubishi with the thinnest tiny R13s on it. Except for the engine the Mitsubishi kicked the Escort's ass in every measurable category.

Mitsubishi also made the infamous "Zero" fighter in WWII, and for the longest time it was putting American fighters to shame. You see Americans are great and designing new things, (the car, the airplane, the VCR, etc. etc.) but what the Japanese do is take our designs and improve upon them. There is nobody to blame but the American car companies. Years ago I had some cool old Mopars, but I also owned a mid 80s "K" car and that POS, makes me almost happy Chrysler is gonna go under. That and I'd like to never see another PT Cruiser in my life!
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You don't happen to drive a motorcycle now, and have experience in what it's like to try to move a motor home around with a small-block V8 instead of a big-block V8, do you? Completely random question, but just curious.
 
randomJACKASS

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Inkara1 said:
You don't happen to drive a motorcycle now, and have experience in what it's like to try to move a motor home around with a small-block V8 instead of a big-block V8, do you? Completely random question, but just curious.
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No bike, but I have owned one before, and one thing I know, is from a power, design, reliability, and efficiency aspect, Harley Davidsons are far from special in relation to Jap bikes and European bikes. The only thing they have on any other bikes is that they are pretty and the mystique of owning one.

Never had a motor home, but yes I know enough to know that difference, none of that changes what I said. How can you possibly think it does? I did not say all foreign stuff is superior, but as a general trend for the most part it is an undeniable fact. The quality of American autos is now very on par with imports, but by now it' is a case of "too little too late".
 
Inkara1

Inkara1

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No, it was a completely random question that had nothing to do with the conversation at hand, asked in order to settle some random thing I had going on in my own mind.
 
randomJACKASS

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OK, I do think it is sad though, because I loved the old classic Chevy, GM, and Mopar muscle cars, and it's sad because I know both of those companies were capable of so much more than they delivered. I am glad that Ford is doing OK, but as far as the old muscle cars you would never have nor ever will see me owning one!
 
Inkara1

Inkara1

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You'd be surprised how much performance you can get out of a Slant Six if you put on the right intake and carburetor.
 
Frodo

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randomJACKASS said:
Mitsubishi also made the infamous "Zero" fighter in WWII, and for the longest time it was putting American fighters to shame.
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I have to disagree here. Look at the All Volunteer Fighter Group's (Flying Tigers) kill ratio. We had the airplanes, we just needed someone like Chenault to develop the tactics. Too bad the rest of the Alied forces refused to listen to him. He was a genius.
 
jimpeel

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spike said:
Damn you bitch about silly shit.
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So you are in complete agreement with handing over 55% control of Chrysler to the unions? (That's a question, not a statement, so don't try to spin it into one this time.)

You believe that the unions should be in control of an American corporation? (That's a question, not a statement, so don't try to spin it into one this time.)

You think this would be a good thing? (That's a question, not a statement, so don't try to spin it into one this time.)
 
randomJACKASS

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jimpeel said:
So you are in complete agreement with handing over 55% control of Chrysler to the unions? (That's a question, not a statement, so don't try to spin it into one this time.)

You believe that the unions should be in control of an American corporation? (That's a question, not a statement, so don't try to spin it into one this time.)

You think this would be a good thing? (That's a question, not a statement, so don't try to spin it into one this time.)
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Ya know what Jim? It often does work when the employees have more say in the company. The company becomes more in touch with the common man, and when they have a large stake in what goes on they do better work. It's not just some rich bitch corporate fat cats running the show and skimming all the cream off the top for themselves!

To hear guys like you tell it, it's the unions trying to take all the gravy at the expense of everyone else, and that has been known to happen on occasion, but it is by no means the rule.
 
MrBishop

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Got to drive a 2008 Charger on Saturday..just for the halibut. I never realized how much truck space the damn things have. My wife loves it... she's actually considering one to replace teh Voyager, if you can imagine that.

I don't see it happening tho' gas hogs with tough to get parts ain't my cup-o tea, eh.

Oh...not the 'civilized charger, neither..this one:
*Bandwidth anti-banditos strike again*
 
GrandCaravanSE

GrandCaravanSE

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MrBishop said:
Here's the pic again...not hotlinked
http://dodge08.com/dodge_charger_srt8_2008_440x220.jpg
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throw a cap and seats on this you will have more fun!!!

SRT10:

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Inkara1

Inkara1

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Having driven HomeLAN's 2005 Magnum with the 5.7 HEMI in it... it's a Charger except a wagon. It has all the power you could ever want in actual day-to-day situations. But you can also get the Magnum/Charger with a 3.5 V6 which would get better around-town mileage (that would be a big consideration in a place like Montreal) but still has enough fower for the car to get out of its own way.

Buyers of the 2.7 V6 in those cars are gluttons for punishment, I would guess.
 
MrBishop

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Inkara1 said:
Having driven HomeLAN's 2005 Magnum with the 5.7 HEMI in it... it's a Charger except a wagon. It has all the power you could ever want in actual day-to-day situations. But you can also get the Magnum/Charger with a 3.5 V6 which would get better around-town mileage (that would be a big consideration in a place like Montreal) but still has enough fower for the car to get out of its own way.

Buyers of the 2.7 V6 in those cars are gluttons for punishment, I would guess.
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A good portion of my travel is not around-town. I rarely go downtown Montreal, but stick to the suburbs, and highways to get to and from work, family visits etc. The big HEMI might be a bit overkill for me, though the 3.5 V6 is a nice idea.
 
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