New Orleans is sinking and I don't wanna swim!

There are plenty of faults near Concord. The Hayward fault isn't that far south and it's capable of a 7.0.
 
Here ya go, Gonz
NEW ORLEANS - The evacuation of the Superdome was suspended Thursday because of fires and gunshots outside the arena, authorities said, as National Guardsmen in armored vehicles poured into New Orleans to help restore order across the increasingly lawless and desperate city.
An additional 10,000 National Guard troops from across the country were ordered into the hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast to shore up security, rescue and relief operations in Katrina's wake. That brought the number of troops dedicated to the effort to more than 28,000, in what may be the biggest military response to a natural disaster in U.S. history.
"The truth is, a terrible tragedy like this brings out the best in most people, brings out the worst in some people," said Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour on NBC's "Today" show. "We're trying to deal with looters as ruthlessly as we can get our hands on them."
The first of 500 busloads of people who were evacuated from the hot and stinking Louisiana Superdome arrived early Thursday at their new temporary home — another sports arena, the Houston Astrodome, 350 miles away.
But the evacuation of the 25,000 or so storm refugees was abruptly suspended by the ambulance service in charge of taking the sick and injured from the Superdome and by the military, which was overseeing the removal of the able-bodied.
Richard Zeuschlag, chief of Acadian Ambulance, said shots were fired at a military helicopter, making it clear that it had become too dangerous for his air-ambulance pilots. And National Guard Lt. Col. Pete Schneider said the military suspended the ground evacuation because fires set outside the arena were preventing buses from getting close enough to pick people up.
President Bush urged a crackdown on the looting and other lawlessness that have spread through New Orleans.
"I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this — whether it be looting, or price gouging at the gasoline pump, or taking advantage of charitable giving or insurance fraud," Bush said. "And I've made that clear to our attorney general. The citizens ought to be working together."
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Hundreds of people wandered up and down shattered Interstate 10 — the only major freeway leading into New Orleans from the east — pushing shopping carts, laundry racks, anything they could find to carry their belongings.
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Some were trying to get the hell out.
 
What I wanna know is, where is Rudy when we need him?

After 9/11 he rides in, takes charge & seems leaderly. The LA governor is trying to be the boss but she's a sniveling, crying weakling. Instead of "We doing this & this & this to help" she's choking back tears as she explains how "we're trying to" & "we're looking into".

The southern coast needs Rudy.
 
What they need is martial law. Just for those counties with the rescue operations going on. COngress needs to loosen the leash just a bit, and let the Apache's come in and take out the looters and the snipers. Once they start getting popped, you can bet your bippy that the shooting will stop. ;)
 
Gato_Solo said:
What they need is martial law. Just for those counties with the rescue operations going on. COngress needs to loosen the leash just a bit, and let the Apache's come in and take out the looters and the snipers. Once they start getting popped, you can bet your bippy that the shooting will stop. ;)
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That's what I wonder about. Isn't this exactly the kind of stuation where marshal law is required? Have some national guard troops catch a couple of more blatant looters, stand 'em against a wall and shoot them. Fine the firing squad the cost of the cartridges (Looks good for the bleading hearts) and make another group shoot the next ones. Word will get around very quickly despite the lack of communications infrastructure. Re the snipers, surely there is a gunship or two to accompany the evac 'copters...
 
Martial Law was declared on Monday night. Nobody has the backbone to use it.
 
Gonz said:
Martial Law was declared on Monday night. Nobody has the backbone to use it.
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I thought I'd read that it had been. I figured I must have misunderstood.
 
chcr said:
I thought I'd read that it had been. I figured I must have misunderstood.
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The Rules of Engagement don't allow for the use of deadly force unless it's a direct response to hostile fire. :rolleyes:
 
Gato_Solo said:
The Rules of Engagement don't allow for the use of deadly force unless it's a direct response to hostile fire. :rolleyes:
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I thought martial law rules where diffrent than battlefield rules.

so shooting looters is a no-no?
 
paul_valaru said:
I thought martial law rules where diffrent than battlefield rules.

so shooting looters is a no-no?
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Rules of Engagement are for specific things. A battlefield would have certain areas where you couldn't fire unless fired upon, and other areas that are 'free fire' zones, due to enemy activity. If they declare New Orleans a 'free fire' zone, then you'll see looters drop like flies. Until then, it's just going to be a response to deadly force. :shrug:
 
Gato_Solo said:
Rules of Engagement are for specific things. A battlefield would have certain areas where you couldn't fire unless fired upon, and other areas that are 'free fire' zones, due to enemy activity. If they declare New Orleans a 'free fire' zone, then you'll see looters drop like flies. Until then, it's just going to be a response to deadly force. :shrug:
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but soldiers do have the right to arrest and detain looters?

do the supercede the local police, do they even work together?
 
Under Martial Law, it supercedes local authority, untl the locals ask for the power to be rescinded.
 
For those unwilling to follow the link

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco warned rioters and looters late on Thursday that National Guard troops were under her orders to "shoot and kill" if needed to restore order.
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Sadly, I concur & add an "it's about time".
 
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