Note to Israeli's

Squiggy said:
Hmmm...palestinians are terrorists and israel "takes care of business"...Someone watches very biased TV..:eh: I've been watching this thing for 40 or so years and i assure you it hasn't all come from the same source. Kinda wish some of you would just take the time to look at it from a palestinian's view. Obviously, the USA is pro Israel and the news and 'official responses' are oriented that way...:eh:
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Are you saying you support suicide bombers and such as the way Palestine is fighting their way?
 
Squiggy said:
and the news and are oriented that way...
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Where do you live again? I'm yet to see anything positive about Israel in the television media in the United States.
 
Luis G said:
Are you saying you support suicide bombers and such as the way Palestine is fighting their way?
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He mentioned he did not support their ways of fighting on here but they have a side that has been closed to us in the states
 
Luis G said:
Are you saying you support suicide bombers and such as the way Palestine is fighting their way?
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This is the point everyone has a problem seperating...Supporting and understanding are two seperate things. Do I want kids to sacrifice themselves for a chance to take out a few dozen Israelis? Of course not. That would be rediculous. But I understand the 'why' that leads them to do it.
 
Gonz said:
Where do you live again? I'm yet to see anything positive about Israel in the television media in the United States.
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Um..Gonz...Thats because Israel is not doing anything that can be referred to as 'positive'. The whole situation sucks. But what we get is always slanted toward minimizing the negative for Israel. Thats why you think they are our friends. :shrug:
 
Squiggy said:
But I understand the 'why' that leads them to do it.
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That is why you scare me.

I don't know if it's in this thread or another one (too lazy) but that is precisely why terrorism needs to be ended at all costs. The day I understand a family sending a child to do an adults job, something as vile & dehumanizing as terrorism, is the day I wish to shuffle off this mortal coil because I'll have become the enemy. If the enemy was literally knocking on your front door & breaking down the back it's different. That is not the case in any terrorist attack.
 
Squiggy said:
This is the point everyone has a problem seperating...Supporting and understanding are two seperate things. Do I want kids to sacrifice themselves for a chance to take out a few dozen Israelis? Of course not. That would be rediculous. But I understand the 'why' that leads them to do it.
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I understand the whys as well, but that won't make me feel sorry for the bastards who do that. Just as i don't feel sorry for the former Hamas chief. I wouldn't be sympathetic if they kill Sharon either.
 
I doubt anyone will feel any sympathy for them Luis. They had their reasons. were the reasons justified is another question.



That is why you scare me.
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because he says they had a reason to? Terrorism should end. that is no question. I say why is because attacking innocents in and of itself is wrong. and I dont understand how youd become the enemy if you understand it. Or do you not want to?
 
freako104 said:
I doubt anyone will feel any sympathy for them Luis. They had their reasons. were the reasons justified is another question.






because he says they had a reason to? Terrorism should end. that is no question. I say why is because attacking innocents in and of itself is wrong. and I dont understand how youd become the enemy if you understand it. Or do you not want to?
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Rationalizing a bad decision does not make it a good decision...no matter who's making it.
 
freako104 said:
i didnt rationalise their decision to say its good. just to say there was a reason for it.
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Anytime a person disagrees with an action, but then goes on to say "I don't like it, but I understand it", they have rationalized that action, and minimized it's effect on them. That kind of thinking will cloud your reactions if a time ever comes when you need those reactions. Let those who caused the original affront understand when you react...not the other way around.
 
I do it possibly in the hopes of stopping it in the future. plus there are more than one story to the situation. I dont see how it minimises the effect. just gives it a new view to think about
 
freako104 said:
just gives it a new view to think about
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Exactly...What does that new view have to do with the fact that you have been wronged? Absolutely nothing. ;)
 
:confuse3: I don't like when people die from HIV. But I understand how they get it..I don't understand your approach, Gato.
 
Squiggy said:
:confuse3: I don't like when people die from HIV. But I understand how they get it..I don't understand your approach, Gato.
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How is your understanding of what makes a terrorist give you an edge in dealing with a terrorist? HIV and terrorism are 2 different things. They both kill indiscriminately, to be sure, but one doesn't think.

Chalk it up to this...you can't please everybody. No matter how nice you are, how rich you are, how humble you are, or how inoffensive you are, somebody is not going to like you. At that point, 'why' doesn't matter. What you could've done to prevent it doesn't matter, either, and using your resources to discover why is nothing more than an exercise in futility and frustration.
 
So...all such disagreements should be handled on a first strike priority? Problems can't be solved without understanding them.
 
thats what Im getting. Gato the new face may not change the past. nothing will change the past. but hopefully you can change the future so that there is less reason if any reason for anyone to attack
 
You want understanding of the terrorist...here it is.


YOU ARE NOT A FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIM SO THEY WANT TO KILL YOU.

Feel better?
 
not particularly since I think there is more to it than just that. although that does play a role, it almost seems to over simplify their thinking
 
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