spike
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Oh, then heterosexuals do that A LOT. They shouldn't be allowed to marry.
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Oh, then heterosexuals do that A LOT. They shouldn't be allowed to marry.
spike
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What? So you have a lesbian couple. They both have parents. Lets call the parents of the first woman Parent A and Parent B. We'll call the parents of the second woman Parent C and Parent D.
So their adopted kid would have grandparents A,B,C, and D.
Also, why the hell do you care?
Winky
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And they just they were spontaneously conceived out of thin air
no Mother no Father ?!?
In the year 6565
Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube, whoa-oh
If man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
no Mother no Father ?!?
In the year 6565
Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube, whoa-oh
If man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
spike
New Member
No conceived and their parents died. You really never heard of orphans before?
jimpeel
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Winky,
Spike believes that any adult homosexual should be able to marry any other adult homosexual they want without exception.
He is okay with brothers marrying brothers, sisters marrying sisters, fathers marrying sons, and mothers marrying daughters. When I posed this question he responded HERE that I was "stretching".
Yet heterosexual sisters, brothers, mothers and fathers cannot marry by law; and he sees no bigotry or discrimination in those laws. Heterosexuals are being discriminated against because they cannot, as Spike desires, "marry any consenting adult that they want".
Spike believes that any adult homosexual should be able to marry any other adult homosexual they want without exception.
He is okay with brothers marrying brothers, sisters marrying sisters, fathers marrying sons, and mothers marrying daughters. When I posed this question he responded HERE that I was "stretching".
Yet heterosexual sisters, brothers, mothers and fathers cannot marry by law; and he sees no bigotry or discrimination in those laws. Heterosexuals are being discriminated against because they cannot, as Spike desires, "marry any consenting adult that they want".
jimpeel
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I see. You want to grow new branches on the family tree to accommodate homosexuals. You have addressed the parents of the couple but you do not address the genealogy of the couple themselves. Which one is the "mother" and which one is the "father"? Which one goes on the mother's chart and which one goes on the father's chart?
Again, you ignore the chart beyond the grandparents. Those heterosexuals have a place on the genealogy chart - mother and father. Where on the chart do the couple appear? Who is the "mother" and who is the "father"?
Genealogy is important to trace family origins, medical history, race, ethnicity, etc.
Why are you so cavalier about genealogy?
MrBishop
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Genealogy is mostly a hobby, Jim. If you want to look for medical history, you don't look at family trees, you look at medical records and ask the surviving relatives, then get blood tests.
Off hand, I'd say that you handle same-sex marriage in a genealogical tree in the same way as you would adoption, divorce, 2nd marriages due to divorce or death, illegitimate children, marrying amongst 1st cousins etc... you wing it.
*Added: Oh, almost forgot...there is no "Side", as in father's side/mother's side in a geneological tree. It's not like you place all the men on one side and the women on the other. People are listed by birth and the main part where you can pick a 'side' is your immediate parents...and you can as easily put your father on the left as on the right..it's choice.
Off hand, I'd say that you handle same-sex marriage in a genealogical tree in the same way as you would adoption, divorce, 2nd marriages due to divorce or death, illegitimate children, marrying amongst 1st cousins etc... you wing it.
*Added: Oh, almost forgot...there is no "Side", as in father's side/mother's side in a geneological tree. It's not like you place all the men on one side and the women on the other. People are listed by birth and the main part where you can pick a 'side' is your immediate parents...and you can as easily put your father on the left as on the right..it's choice.
jimpeel
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The sites referenced which are tagged (ILLUSTRATED) are quite graphic. You have been warned.
You have stated that homosexual anal sex is "natural". If it is "natural" shouldn't nature have provided for the act? Nature has provided for the "natural" act of heterosexual vaginal sex by providing lubricating mucosa. Why hasn't nature provided lubricating mucosa for the "natural" act of anal sex? Why is there anal tearing and bleeding at the site of penetration when "natural" anal sex is performed while such tearing or bleeding is rare during "natural" vaginal sexual penetration?
Perhaps you should educate yourself on *edited to remove link - Leslie - if there's buttfloss it's fine* especially the part about:
"As the rectal mucous membrane provides little natural lubrication, a personal lubricant is most often required or preferred when penetrating the anus.*edited to remove link - Leslie - if there's buttfloss it's fine*" Is that "natural"?
Why are rectal prolapses common among homosexuals?
Or how about this? *edited to remove link - Leslie - if there's buttfloss it's fine*"Receptive homosexuals have 50 times the rate of anal cancers." Is that "natural"?
Why is *edited to remove link - Leslie - if there's buttfloss it's fine* anal carcinoma more common in homosexuals. Is that "natural"?
jimpeel
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If you have Jews or Blacks in your lineage you have the possibility of Tay Sachs or Sickle Cell Anemia in your genes. That is but one example of how genealogy affects medical history.
When was the last time you were tested for Tay Sachs or Sickle Cell?
MrBishop
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I've been tested for neither... then again, my genealogical tree wouldn't help anyway. My entire family was adopted into someone else's tree 3 generations ago...grafted being the best analogy. Right around the same time as we were given our family name.
I do have diabetes in my family if you go back 2 generations... but I know that through word of mouth and not a pretty diagram. I've been tested for that.
Children who are adopted by hetero families have the same issues as those adopted by homo families - if they do not know who their biological parents are (and thus have no access to medical records), the family tree is useless in predicting hereditary conditions ranging from SS.Anemia to male-pattern baldness.
I do have diabetes in my family if you go back 2 generations... but I know that through word of mouth and not a pretty diagram. I've been tested for that.
Children who are adopted by hetero families have the same issues as those adopted by homo families - if they do not know who their biological parents are (and thus have no access to medical records), the family tree is useless in predicting hereditary conditions ranging from SS.Anemia to male-pattern baldness.
MrBishop
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In addition, if one of your predecessors is adopted (parent, grandparent etc.) you cannot go past that point in the tree to guess at potential hereditary conditions, and you yet again have to rely on getting yourself tested. You're also assuming that you are actually genetically linked to the people you call your parents. For your mother, that's obvious...for the father? It's an assumption... not to slag your folks, but how can you be sure that your father is your biological father? Can anyone?
That's why virginity before marriage is such a big issue..in the woman.
That's why virginity before marriage is such a big issue..in the woman.