Recall

paul_valaru said:
what was Arnold platform?

is that a good thing?
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Platform: I'll get jobs for you. Bring business back to California. He, unfortunately, never mentioned how he would do that. He also mentioned lowering the tax burden & working to keep illegals out.

Good thing? We'll (they'll) have to wait & see. He can't be any worse than the fool he replaced & if he can do as he said, then sure.
 
flavio said:
You would then need to subtract the votes from Arnie from people who voted "No" on the recall and for Arnold if the recall went through to get the final picture.
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ummm..... Ok? And how do you figure this?
 
Arnie-3,624,154
No- 3,507,933
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arnie gets 116221 more votes than grey-out with 99.2% of the votes counted.
 
PuterTutor said:
ummm..... Ok? And how do you figure this?
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If you're comparing votes for Davis to votes for Arnold then you have to take into account the people that voted "No" to the recall and then voted for Arnold should the recall go through. Otherwise you're counting their votes twice.

So if you want the number of people who wanted Davis in office as their 1st choice you simply take all the "No on the recall" votes.

If you want the people that wanted Arnold as their 1st choice then you take the number of votes for Arnold and subtract the people who would prefer Davis (the ones who voted No on the recall).

or you can just take the number of Yes votes who then voted for Arnold. Same number either way.

All theoretical of course, I'm just wondering if this is actually set up to represent who the people want in office.
 
Ok, I don't know how the ballot was set up, but if they voted no on the recall, they still voted for a second pick? And Davis wasn't on that list apparently, right?
 
PuterTutor said:
Ok, I don't know how the ballot was set up, but if they voted no on the recall, they still voted for a second pick? And Davis wasn't on that list apparently, right?
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Yep, that's it. Whether you voted Yes or No on the recall you still picked from list of candidates (not including Davis).

Since a large number of voters picked "No" as their 1st choice and then Arnold as their 2nd choice, it becomes pretty clear that the majority of the voters preferred Davis to Arnold.
 
Well, that's hard to say, just because they voted no doesn't mean they voted for Arnie. I would have thought the way to do that was if you voted No, then you didn't pick a replacement, cause you already did, essentially.
 
PuterTutor said:
Well, that's hard to say, just because they voted no doesn't mean they voted for Arnie.
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I'm not saying all those who voted "No" voted for Arnie. A large number did though.

I would have thought the way to do that was if you voted No, then you didn't pick a replacement, cause you already did, essentially.
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Then the number of votes for Davis would easily beat the number for Arnold.
 
i found this interesting. even grays own people just want this over.


"Leon Panetta, former President Clinton’s chief of staff and a member of the Davis team, agreed. He told “Today” that Californians shouldn’t “mire ourselves” in allegations. “It’s time now it seems to me to have a governor” who can focus on state issues, he said.
Panetta also described the idea of recalling the recall election “a bad idea ... it’s time to move on. ... The voters have spoken here, I think we ought to give the new governor a chance to be able to govern the state.”
Some Democrats have raised the possibility of a new election to withdraw the recall vote, but Davis himself repeatedly said “no” when supporters at his concession speech Tuesday night urged him to push for it. "
 
ARNOLD FOR PRESIDENT!!

Well, Bush is very conservative about sexual appropriateness...
 
On the other hand, if you consider the votes by both the republican candidates, grey-out was not just tossed, he was thrown out of office.

Arnold Schwarzenegger Rep 3,743,393 48.7
Cruz M. Bustamante Dem 2,432,446 31.6
Tom McClintock Rep 1,026,481 13.4
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4,769,874 for (R)
2,432,446 for (D)


for the fuzzy math crowd-
(R) votes minus No votes = 1,210,474
Yes votes minus (D) votes = 1,982,895

(R} wins.

There were more NO votes than Gray-out got in the normal election last fall.
 
I'm not sure what adding two candidates votes together is supposed to show? This wasn't a (R) vs. (D) election.

...and if there were more No votes than he got last election that would mean he got more support this time around?

My point in my earlier posts was that more people picked Davis as their 1st choice than any other candidate. Makes you wonder if this is set up properly.
 
flavio said:
I'm not sure what adding two candidates votes together is supposed to show? This wasn't a (R) vs. (D) election.

...and if there were more No votes than he got last election that would mean he got more support this time around?

My point in my earlier posts was that more people picked Davis as their 1st choice than any other candidate. Makes you wonder if this is set up properly.
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All elections are (R) vs (D). Adding teh two (R)'s shows that the state not only didn't want a (D), they were adamant about it.

Correct, more no votes means he got more "support" than last time. Look at how many YES votes there were also.

I still don't see the logic in you statement that more people picked Grey-out. All the numbers point to booting him...total yes votes, Arnolds tally, variations of the same theme..people had enough.
 
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