Should criminals be allowed to hold public office?

[flavio]

My folks pay more than $1,300 a week in taxes. Tell me that isn't an incredible amount. Please, do tell me that.

I don't give a shit what your parents pay in taxes. This is about you not paying your taxes. Your parents probably payed less taxes for years because they could use you as deduction.

You don't pay incredible amounts of taxes. In fact you've never payed any taxes.

Whether I deserve it or not is none of your business. The legal government, however, thinks I deserve it. That is what counts eh?

many people aren't honest with their taxes and get away with it. That doesn't mean the government thinks they deserve it.

Perhaps not. But in a family of four people that file income tax returns with a home office, three people that work full time, minors, charitable donations, private schools, tuition, living expenses, and a whole lot more, combined with the fact that certain tax credits can be shifted around to other people in the family it becomes pretty complicated. And I don't hesitate to admit, it is too complicated for me to understand without going into an extensive study of Canada's income tax laws.

I don't see how much of that has anything to do with your return. Just avoiding things again.

Where is the shady stuff you're talking about? Hmm, I see. Talking out of your ass.

"Shady" comes from the fact that you are claiming that you spent more on deductible expenses than you made. Yet you have no kids. This is shady. How can you spend more than you make?

and you don't pay all of your expenses.

That I do, and so does my parents.

Ah, another lie you've been caught in. You said that you paid all your own expenses, but that was just more bullshit from you. You lie quite often don't you?

 

[Jeslek]

Well, I'm ending this argument. I know that I am not commiting any crimes, and I also know that I am not lying. Lying is something I just do not do. Whether you want to believe that or not is up to you. So if it turns your crank to think I'm a thief and a criminal, by all means, do so.

 

[flavio]

After claimin that you pay all of your own expenses you just admitted that you don't.

That was a lie. So lying is something that you do. I've nailed you on your bullshit several times recently.

The only reason that you ran from this issue in the other thread and want to run away again is that you're backed into a corner.

You can't answer the questions I pose and your repeated attempts to avoid the issue are being shot down each and every time.

I think it's about time you quit making everyone else shoulder your burden and started paying some taxes.

 

[Jeslek]

Ugh you can't stop picking a fight, and I can't stop replying to it.

After claimin that you pay all of your own expenses you just admitted that you don't.

I don't see me admitting that anywhere.

That was a lie. So lying is something that you do. I've nailed you on your bullshit several times recently.

What bullshit?

The only reason that you ran from this issue in the other thread and want to run away again is that you're backed into a corner.

Not really, you don't read what I write, so why continue?

You can't answer the questions I pose and your repeated attempts to avoid the issue are being shot down each and every time.

Maybe it is because I don't know the answers to them?

I think it's about time you quit making everyone else shoulder your burden and started paying some taxes.

Nah, I'm not going to pay taxes if I don't have to. Besides, we should help each other out right? That means you need to work harder so you can support me. Nice socialist you are eh? So work harder, because there are millions on welfare that depend on YOU for their vacations.

Oh and, go read my posts again.. I've stated the facts. I have an income. I do pay taxes (EI and CPP). I do not pay any federal income tax because to the government I have a $0 income. My tax is done in conjunction with the rest of my family's by a certified accountant. We've been auditted two times and both times the government did not complain. We are perfectly legal. And I do pay my own tuition, accomodation, text books, and so forth.

 

[flavio]

You always resort to unfounded name calling when you have nothing intelligent to say? Socialist? Bah...

The fact that you've been letting everyone else shoulder your responsibility makes you quite a hypocrit from some of the crap you spewed in other threads.

you don't read what I write, so why continue?

I've read and responded to everything you wrote. You're the one that repeatedly avoids questions.

and you don't pay all of your expenses.

That I do, and so does my parents.

So your parents pay some of your expenses or not?

 

[Squiggy]

Damn you two...I've gone through 4 buckets of popcorn and you're still going strong....

 

[PT]

no. i dont believe they should even have the right to vote let alone hold office. no exceptions.

Sorry Freako, but I have to call a foul here, this thread was genuinely and irreversably off-topic at this point. If you wanted to go back on-topic, there should have been some kind of warning.

Otherwise, Carry on.

 

[Squiggy]

 

[Jeslek]

So your parents pay some of your expenses or not?

No. They don't pay any of my expenses. Well ok I lied. I do occasionally take my laundry there, and I eat meals there every so often. And I get the occasional tshirt from them.

Otherwise, Carry on

lol

 

[flavio]

no. i dont believe they should even have the right to vote let alone hold office. no exceptions.

Sorry Freako, but I have to call a foul here, this thread was genuinely and irreversably off-topic at this point. If you wanted to go back on-topic, there should have been some kind of warning.

Otherwise, Carry on.

Foul indeed!

No. They don't pay any of my expenses. Well ok I lied. I do occasionally take my laundry there, and I eat meals there every so often. And I get the occasional tshirt from them.

So when you say "I pay and so do my parents" that means only you pay? Another case of either BS or intentionally misleading information from you.

Bottom line is though:

You pay $6000 tuition, a car payment, car insurance, $450/month rent, food, books, phone, and all working half the year or less for co-op pay with no help?

On top of that you also spend more money than you make on deductible expenses. All the while avoiding paying any income tax and still feeling like you need to champion the cause of the "rich" and their hardships with taxes. While for 20 years you have taken advantage of the things tax money pays for without ever contributing. Yet still, you also look down your nose on the dangerously poor and their welfare handouts.

 

[Jeslek]

So when you say "I pay and so do my parents" that means only you pay? Another case of either BS or intentionally misleading information from you.

No buckwheat, it means they pay their taxes and I pay mine.

You pay $6000 tuition, a car payment, car insurance, $450/month rent, food, books, phone, and all working half the year or less for co-op pay with no help?

You're confusing things again as usual. Lets work in 8 month periods ok? But hm, I sometimes get food from my parents, and I sometimes sleep there (when I work I don't have to pay rent or food or phone, etc). It really isn't rocket science, nor is it really hard to take some logical deductive steps.

All the while avoiding paying any income tax

I'm not avoiding taxes. I have no taxable income. How is that avoiding tax if they can't tax me in the first place?

and still feeling like you need to champion the cause of the "rich" and their hardships with taxes.

Yes, because I see other people that make a fair bit and how much the government steals from them. I don't just look at myself.

While for 20 years you have taken advantage of the things tax money pays for without ever contributing.

A bit. Nice socialistic system eh? I don't want to contribute, but I sure as hell am going to take and get from it what I can. And yes my family even received welfare one year because they only worked two months of that year and that put them a bit below the welfare line. Great system eh? Why do I need to contribute if I can get things for free from the government? Such a nice socialist system. I must say, I really love socialism. So nice for everyone. Sit back and leech of society...

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Do YOU pay taxes?

 

[freako104]

no. i dont believe they should even have the right to vote let alone hold office. no exceptions.

Sorry Freako, but I have to call a foul here, this thread was genuinely and irreversably off-topic at this point. If you wanted to go back on-topic, there should have been some kind of warning.

Otherwise, Carry on.

sorry about that i didnt read the thread til now. but from now on i will. i think flavio, jsut so you know if you work a part of your pay check gpes to taxes so you dopay a little.check the stub of your paycheck and itll say where it goes. and as far as the jerreks parents claiming him, they can only do that if he is living with them and not paying any kind of rent. i am doing that therefore my parents can claim me. but i get the money as far as i know(even though id rather it stay in my social security myself)

 

[flavio]

So when you say "I pay and so do my parents" that means only you pay? Another case of either BS or intentionally misleading information from you.

No buckwheat, it means they pay their taxes and I pay mine.

Look at the image below closely you fscktard. It is your own reply and it clearly in response to "expenses".

It is earlier in this same thread even. Can you even remeber the crap that you type from one post to the next or are you throwing out so many lies and bullshit that you can't keep track of it all?

 

[Squiggy]

Hey flav...Whats up?

 

[flavio]

I'm not avoiding taxes. I have no taxable income. How is that avoiding tax if they can't tax me in the first place?

By claiming that you spent more money on deductible items than you make you are evading taxes.

and still feeling like you need to champion the cause of the "rich" and their hardships with taxes.

Yes, because I see other people that make a fair bit and how much the government steals from them. I don't just look at myself.

It's obvious that you don't "look at yourself" as your stealing is somehow justified.

While for 20 years you have taken advantage of the things tax money pays for without ever contributing.

I don't want to contribute, but I sure as hell am going to take and get from it what I can. And yes my family even received welfare one year because they only worked two months of that year and that put them a bit below the welfare line.

We've established that you are a hypocrit, are you trying to establish your family as hypocrits too?

 

[flavio]

Hey flav...Whats up?

Hey Squiggy, just my normal morning. Slapping around the mentally handicapped to start the day.

 

[Jeslek]

I think flavio is just too retarded to comprehend things. Even Nixy knows what I'm talking about. Now I know she very smart, but it doesn't take a PhD to understand what I'm writing.

http://www.otcentral.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5689&perpage=40&pagenumber=4

 

[Q]

I think flavio is just too retarded to comprehend things.

Seems to me, flavio has an uncanny gift of comprehension.

it doesn't take a PhD to understand what I'm writing.

nope, but it may require a criminal mentality.

 

[Nixy]

Even Nixy knows what I'm talking about.

I take that as a bit of an insult.

I realize you also stated that you think I am very smart but you seem shocked that I know what you are talking about.

This will be my 3rd year filing income tax in Canada. I even did my own return last year!!! OF COURSE I know what you are talking about.

 

[Jeslek]

I take that as a bit of an insult.

No, I'm sorry, I did not mean it that way. I was not thinking in English and directly translated. Sorry.


Its funny how flavio and Q thinks I'm a criminal, but I did not do my tax return (instead it was done by a professional, who is responsibile to an ethics council and you are now accusing him of fraud), AND the government auditted us and gave the green light.