Somebody doesn't get it

[ClaireBear]

See that is where I have the problem, seeing a kid swinging from the ceiling is a clue something is wrong, but could be he's just a brat, trying to diagnose something from jsut seeing a kid in a classroom situation cannot be easy to do, i have great respect for teachers on the whole, but hearing ones say "he is this that or the other" I don't get it, the child is one in 30 in the class, you only ever see him/her in that social situation, when the kids lights get dimmed by meds only to realize later the child was gifted, and just bored.

I know you can't change it Claire, it's beyond your control if that is how they do it, I just think the system sucks, here there and elsewhere.

And I think people are ritalin mad.

The system is actually fine... ADHD or more rightly ESBD (for which no meds can prescribed) is a PC term for a "BRAT" a "little shit... that needs a good damn telling off!"

Teachers will try every method to help and appease including changing the level of work set, before calling in an outside body who may suggest conselling.. parental classes and in worst cases medication

 

[paul_valaru]

The system is actually fine... ADHD or more rightly ESBD (for which no meds can prescribed) is a PC term for a "BRAT" a "little shit... that needs a good damn telling off!"

Teachers will try every method to help and appease including changing the level of work set, before calling in an outside body who may suggest conselling.. parental classes and in worst cases medication

real ADHD is not a term for brat, I was a counsellor (not in the shrink sense, in the summer camp sense) to special needs children, I saw real ADHD up close and personal, and it has nothing to do with a kid being bratty

 

[Professur]

real ADHD is not a term for brat, I was a counsellor (not in the shrink sense, in the summer camp sense) to special needs children, I saw real ADHD up close and personal, and it has nothing to do with a kid being bratty

Unfortunately, Paul, too many people either can't tell the difference, or don't recognise that a difference exists. Similarly, TV's and Nintendo make great babysitters.

 

[Gonz]

real ADHD is not a term for brat, I was a counsellor (not in the shrink sense, in the summer camp sense) to special needs children, I saw real ADHD up close and personal, and it has nothing to do with a kid being bratty

As have I & you are 100% correct. Inattention is not a disorder. Running in cirlcles smacking oneself while chanting the lords prayer is.

It's very similar to the sudden over diagnosis of asthma. Anybody who has ever seen a kid sit & turn deep purple from lack of oxygen knows that out of breath only equals out of shape.

 

[ClaireBear]

real ADHD is not a term for brat, I was a counsellor (not in the shrink sense, in the summer camp sense) to special needs children, I saw real ADHD up close and personal, and it has nothing to do with a kid being bratty

ADHD is a kid wacked out on E numbers with no self control... Seen it dealt with it... had other children nearly blinded with spray board cleaner from a sufferer.

In the old days there was no distinction between a "bad kid" and a kid with a valid disorder... so my point is that today children who don't actually have ADHD but actually haved ESBD get labelled with it.

ESBD is the new PC term for a "problem child in want of a good smack"

 

[Gonz]

ESBD is the new PC term for a "problem child in want of a good smack"

Might I offer a suggestion? Let us not use this gross overmanagement of verbage & let us suggest our friends, foes, peers & cohorts cease form it's use also. Maybe it'll go away.

 

[MrBishop]

I worked with ADHD, ADD, hyperactive and hypoactive kids with the QACLD (Quebec Association of Children with Learning Dissabilities) for a while...there is a radical difference between these kids and those who get labelled ADHD because medicating them is a quick fix and labelling them means that you can medicate them.

Kid next door got labelled such by his school. He took his meds and got turned into a little zombie. His parents took him off his meds, had a good talking to with him and other than being an extremely active child while at home, he's calmed down in school and his grades are up. I've talked to him about it...he understands that not being good in school means that he gets to be a zombie again. He picked good behaviour.

I meyself was labelled ADD while in University. I was given a bevy ot tests including IQ, and with some tips and tricks, I was able to end my University at least 20 grade points (ave mid-60's to ave mid-80s) higher because of those tricks. Unlike some children who have this ailment...I picked up on the reasoning behind the tricks. Try explaining them to a 7 year old though...