superstition defeats science
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Winky
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chcr
Too cute for words
That article proves my point. If morality were absolute rather than subjective, then there would be no need to teach right from wrong. Everyone would be born knowing it. See, you continually misunderstand what I'm saying. Do I think ours are better? Of course I do, just like you do. If you (or anyone else) had been raised in a society with different moral values, you would hold those rather than the ones you hold now.Winky said:
Edit: In case you missed it, clearly the Brits are idiots. If you don't teach children right from wrong, they won't know.
"Now lil Johnny, do you think it's okay to put that pencil in Stacys eye?"
"Yes, now shut the fuck up bitch."
"Alrighty then, just checking your secure beliefs".
Does that mean the left will quit whining about the right, since we are very secure in our beliefs & about our persons.
"Yes, now shut the fuck up bitch."
"Alrighty then, just checking your secure beliefs".
Does that mean the left will quit whining about the right, since we are very secure in our beliefs & about our persons.
Winky
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Help me out here cheeky.
Do you guys really not know that right and wrong exist
that indeed there is a final Cosmic arbiter, an order to things as it were,
and that moral values are based on that premise
for the good of society and the individual.
Or do you know and spend your lives trying to deny it???
Inquirying right wing minds Gotta know?
Do you guys really not know that right and wrong exist
that indeed there is a final Cosmic arbiter, an order to things as it were,
and that moral values are based on that premise
for the good of society and the individual.
Or do you know and spend your lives trying to deny it???
Inquirying right wing minds Gotta know?
Winky
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No cheeky that IS the beauty of true atheism.
I thought you were one as well,
not merely attempting to use it as a dodge for recognizing reality exists.
C'Mon yer middle-aged like me we've seen too much not to have realized that this whole does have some order behind it.
Attributing it to some grandfatherly super natural being
is what the primitives had to resort too with their absolute lack of science.
We are not operating under that handicap.
So what's it gonna be are you with me or agin me?
I thought you were one as well,
not merely attempting to use it as a dodge for recognizing reality exists.
C'Mon yer middle-aged like me we've seen too much not to have realized that this whole does have some order behind it.
Attributing it to some grandfatherly super natural being
is what the primitives had to resort too with their absolute lack of science.
We are not operating under that handicap.
So what's it gonna be are you with me or agin me?
chcr
Too cute for words
Winky said:
Neither one.
Try to be clear, though (if you can).
Do you or don't you believe "that indeed there is a final Cosmic arbiter" because I gotta tell you, that's exactly the same as "some grandfatherly super natural being." [Pedanticman]Oh, and supernatural is one word. Super natural would mean something else.[/Pedanticman]
Winky
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You can't be serious!
Go with your bad self and think you can
'make it up as you go along'
subjective laws of morality
pertain to you no more than the law of gravity
go forth and sin some more heh heh
Mebbe Mikey had something there when he titled his book
"Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"
Go with your bad self and think you can
'make it up as you go along'
subjective laws of morality
pertain to you no more than the law of gravity
go forth and sin some more heh heh
Mebbe Mikey had something there when he titled his book
"Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"
chcr
Too cute for words
Perhaps you could try to explain how I'm even supposed to take that seriously?Winky said:
True in physics. In philosophy, not so much.Winky said:
60's TV commercial.Winky said:
...but Greg's wheel will leave me alone? (BTW, you know she's a scientologist, right?)Winky said:
Then I completely fail to understand how I'll be punished.Winky said:
Go read a bible, your religion has some serious self-consistency issues.
If I feel like it later, I'll shoot you a PM on atheism, what it means and why threatening my immortal soul, which even you agree doesn't actually exist, leaves me somewhat less than concerned.
Professur
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2minkey said:
And in my opinion, when someone starts using the word "stupid" they're on the short list for being ignored. The fact that you lack the basis for understanding doesn't make them stupid, sunshine, any more than your lack of understanding string theory makes Stephen Hawking stupid.
Rational is a matter of perspective. You don't understand their rational because you blind yourself to their perspective.
Winky
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You won't be punished after death
it'll git cha while yer still here on earth.
Even an atheist liberal can't escape reality.
I am really beginning to understand how you folks
are truly unable to grasp how I and millions of other
people in this country see the world.
Strange thing is we aren't afflicted with the same deficit.
We know where you're coming from and in most cases
couldn't care less than we already do...
Funny thing is I've never gotten any of you to admit
the true nature of your position. The thing that truly
interests me is whether you'd admit it to yourselves?
For example you will concede that it works in physics
then why doesn’t it apply to morality? Hmmm?
I can almost guarantee what your response will be to that.
it'll git cha while yer still here on earth.
Even an atheist liberal can't escape reality.
I am really beginning to understand how you folks
are truly unable to grasp how I and millions of other
people in this country see the world.
Strange thing is we aren't afflicted with the same deficit.
We know where you're coming from and in most cases
couldn't care less than we already do...
Funny thing is I've never gotten any of you to admit
the true nature of your position. The thing that truly
interests me is whether you'd admit it to yourselves?
For example you will concede that it works in physics
then why doesn’t it apply to morality? Hmmm?
I can almost guarantee what your response will be to that.
chcr
Too cute for words
Actually, I fully understand how you see the world. You make it up as you go along.Winky said:You won't be punished after death
it'll git cha while yer still here on earth.
Even an atheist liberal can't escape reality.
I am really beginning to understand how you folks
are truly unable to grasp how I and millions of other
people in this country see the world.
Strange thing is we aren't afflicted with the same deficit.
We know where you're coming from and in most cases
couldn't care less than we already do...
Funny thing is I've never gotten any of you to admit
the true nature of your position. The thing that truly
interests me is whether you'd admit it to yourselves?
For example you will concede that it works in physics
then why doesn’t it apply to morality? Hmmm?
I can almost guarantee what your response will be to that.
Let me answer your last question with a question. If morality is so cut and dried, so pervasive, so carved in stone, why does it need to be taught? Why aren't you born knowing right from wrong?
Interesting religion ya got there but I'm no more ready to accept your version of god(s) than any one else's. As I have explained countliess times, I'm an atheist. No god, no supernatural old grandfatherly dude, no "cosmic arbiter."
You are clearly confused about what this means. Sorry that you're not an atheist when you hang so much importance on sayng you are. Thanks for playing. See ya.
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
2minkey said:
So, once again, who are you to qualify what is stupid and what is not?
2minkey said:
Ahh...so now we see what the problem is. You don't like when someone points out your hypocrisy. Here's a news flash for you...just because a person disagrees, or has a dissenting opinion...does not make that person a hypocrite. All things happen in a context. You said, in another thread, that I may not know what it means...I guess you are the one who has a problem grasping the definition.
