Terrorists are pu**ies

MrBishop said:
Even in Iraq...the point of the terrorism there is to get Iraq back to where it was. It ain't going to work...and getting some small country from removing it's dozen troops from the war...is a pittance.

I'd hardly call forcing a governmental change in a developed Western nation a pittance. That's success in anybody's book.

Thanks a fucking pantload, Spaniards.
 
Professur said:
regardless, Bish, the terrorists think that they're going to heaven. That's the bit we really need to stop.

How? If we could figure that out....we'd actually win the unwinable war on terrorism (at least Muslim terrorism).

Every religion has its zealots...tell a zealot that he's risking his life for his religion/God...he'll die for you and kill for you. Like you said...think of the crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem Witch trials, etc etc...
 
No negotiations, ever.

Sorry about the kids, but wait em out, when they first try to kill the first hostage, storm the place
 
MrBishop said:
How? If we could figure that out....we'd actually win the unwinable war on terrorism (at least Muslim terrorism).
Two words. Pork Bullets.
 
MrBishop said:
How? If we could figure that out....we'd actually win the unwinable war on terrorism (at least Muslim terrorism)....


Media, advertisements, PR in any & all forms. It's worked in Germany & Japan, it's working in Iraq.
 
Professur said:
Paul, according to what bish posted, there are already victims.


then send in the troops, the only way to deal with terrorists is to destroy them, try to save what you can, but kill the bad guys.

Pork bullets is a great idea, or pig blood filled gernades
 
Professur said:
Paul, according to what bish posted, there are already victims.

The first victim was a parent who basically said "Keep your hands off of my son"... no kids dead, yet/
 
MrBishop said:
The first victim was a parent who basically said "Keep your hands off of my son"... no kids dead, yet/


Kids or parent, dead is dead, and they crossed the line.

Now if I wasn't so level headed I would suggest taking the peopel they want freed, bringing them to this sight, and then executing them in a way that would not allow them into heaven my islamic law one at a time, till they let everyone go.

But I would NEVER suggest anything like that
 
Dzgoyev said a girl was also lying near the building, presumably wounded, but officials said the area could not be approached because it was coming under fire.

Fatima Khabalova, spokeswoman for the regional parliament, earlier said one of the dead was a father who brought his child to the school and was shot when he tried to resist the raiders. She also said at least nine people had been injured in gunfire, including three teachers and two police officers.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131060,00.html

Who knows the real number and age of the casualties. It's too confused right now to even evacuate the wounded from open areas.

It's probably going to end nastily.
 
Make or break decision time. Attack & save some. Seige & lose some. Relinquish control & lose all.

Somebody's head is gonna roll over this. Might as well make a stand & show the Islamofascists that they will lose every time.
 
It's a difficult one. You can't negotiate with them, because that only encourages the belief that terrorism will work every time to get their own way. You can't bomb the school back to the stone-age because that's unconscionable. I guess it has to be a seige lock-down. Cut off supplies, feign negotiation, until you can get troops in there to rescue the poor little kiddies.

Another difficulty is that Russia ain't exactly been playing nice in Chechnya.
 
The Russians got into a civil war situation. Civilians got hurt, as usually happens in a war. They didn't wake up one morning and say to themselves, "let's go wipe us out a grade school." That's exactly what the terrorists in this story did.

People who take your position usually can't make this simple distinction.
 
BOOM BOOM

Two explosions rock the area as terrorists take aim at two cars parked too closely to the school (and miss). - no link...heard it on the radio.

31 released from the school

Recent Terrorist events in Russia (Chechnyan)

Sept. 1: More than a dozen attackers carrying guns and reportedly wrapped in suicide-bomb belts seize an elementary school in the Russian region of North Ossetia, taking hundreds of hostages, including some 200 children.


_ August 31: Car blows up outside a Moscow subway stop, killing at least 10 people. Federal Security Services blame a female suicide bomber, according to news reports.


_ August 24: Two airliners crash within minutes of each other after taking off from the same airport, killing a total of 90 people. Officials say explosive traces were found in the wreckage and President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) calls the crashes terrorist acts.


_ May 9: Bomb rips through a stadium in the Chechen capital, Grozny, during a Victory Day ceremony, killing provincial President Akhmad Kadyrov, the Kremlin's point man for efforts to control separatist violence in the war-wracked region. As many as 24 people are killed. A Chechen warlord claims responsibility.

_ Feb. 6: Explosion rips through a subway car in the Moscow metro during rush hour, killing 41 people. Authorities suspect a terrorist attack.


2003:


_Dec. 9: Female suicide bomber blows herself up outside Moscow's National Hotel, across from the Kremlin and Red Square, killing five bystanders.


_ Dec. 5: Suicide bombing on commuter train in southern Russia kills 44 people. Putin condemns attack as bid to destabilize the country two days before parliamentary elections.


_ Sept. 16: Two suicide bombers drive a truck laden with explosives into a government security services building near Chechnya (news - web sites), killing three people and injuring 25.


_ Aug. 1: Suicide bomber rams truck filled with explosives into a military hospital near Chechnya, killing 50 people, including Russian troops wounded in Chechnya.


_ July 10: Russian security agent dies in Moscow while trying to defuse a bomb a woman had tried to carry into a cafe on central Moscow's main street.


_ July 5: Double suicide bombing at a Moscow rock concert kills the female attackers and 15 other people.


_ June 5: Female suicide attacker detonates bomb near a bus carrying soldiers and civilians to a military airfield in Mozdok, a major staging point for Russian troops in Chechnya, killing at least 16 people.


_ May 14: Woman blows up explosives strapped to her waist in crowd of thousands of Muslim pilgrims, killing at least 18 people in an apparent attempt on the life of Chechnya's Moscow-backed chief administrator, Akhmad Kadyrov, now the region's president.


_ May 12: Suicide truck-bomb attack kills at least 60 people at a government compound in northern Chechnya.





_ April 3: Passenger bus hits remote-controlled land mine in the Chechen capital, killing at least 8.

2002:

_ Dec. 27: Suicide truck-bomb attack destroys headquarters of Chechnya's Moscow-backed government, killing 72 people.

Source

Looks like this is nothing new in Russia, eh? Women suicide bombers??!? That's a new twist!
 
The funny thing is that this is almost certainly what the terrorists want.

They know there is no way out for them, they know that they are dead meat whatever happens. What they want is to bring chechnya back into the news. They want people to talk about it and decide that the Russians are in the wrong.

They know their demands will not be met and they are probably willing to kill those innocent kids, because they know if they do it will be on every news show in the world and on every discussion forum on the internet. The more people know about this act the more they know about the fact that the Russians are occupying their homeland.

So from their pov mission accomplished. They are willing to die in furtherance of an islamic state and so their place in heaven as martyrs is assured.
 
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