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Gonz

Gonz

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Well, that didn't take long.

Utah Polygamist Invokes Ruling on Gay Sex
By MARK THIESSEN Associated Press Writer
December 1, 2003, 9:53 PM EST

SALT LAKE CITY -- A lawyer for a Utah man with five wives argued Monday that his bigamy convictions should be thrown out following a Supreme Court decision decriminalizing gay sex.

The nation's high court in June struck down a Texas sodomy law, ruling that what gay men and women do in the privacy of their homes is no business of government.

It's no different for polygamists, argued Tom Green's attorney, John Bucher, to the Utah Supreme Court.

"It doesn't bother anyone, (and with) no compelling state interest in what you do in your own home with consenting adults, you should be allowed to do so," Bucher said.

The state said the court should reject the appeal because Green failed to raise the issue during his trial more than two years ago or anywhere else along the judicial path since then.

Green, who is not affiliated with any church, was convicted of four counts of bigamy and one count of criminal nonsupport of his 30 children in August 2001.

Besides his five-year sentence, he faces up to life in prison after being convicted of child rape for having sex with one of his five wives when she was 13.

"He preys on young girls," assistant Utah Attorney General Laura Dupaix said. "This case is about a man who marries young girls and calls it religion."

Polygamy was renounced by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1890 as part of a deal to grant Utah statehood, and the church now excommunicates those members who practice or advocate it. Polygamy has an estimated 30,000 practitioners in the West.
Copyright © 2003, The Associated Press
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Green, who is not affiliated with any church, was convicted of four counts of bigamy and one count of criminal nonsupport of his 30 children in August 2001.

Besides his five-year sentence, he faces up to life in prison after being convicted of child rape for having sex with one of his five wives when she was 13.
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Those are the parts that stood out for me. How old is this guy? And how old was he when he had sex with a 13 year old?! And how the hell can you get married at 13 years old?
 
Gonz

Gonz

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greenfreak said:
And how the hell can you get married at 13 years old?
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The old world meets the new world order.

If gay marriage is okay why not polygamy or underage marriage? The court wishes to keep out of the bedroom.
 
Squiggy

Squiggy

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Gonz said:
The old world meets the new world order.

If gay marriage is okay why not polygamy or underage marriage? The court wishes to keep out of the bedroom.
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Of consenting adults Not kids....
 
Gonz

Gonz

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In many UN nations, 13 is a consenting adult. Since we wish the UN to control matters...
 
Ms Ann Thrope

Ms Ann Thrope

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Gonz said:
In many UN nations, 13 is a consenting adult. Since we wish the UN to control matters...
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Oh that's right... we took their recommendation as to the best way to proceed against Iraq... :rolleyes:
 
rrfield

rrfield

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Gonz said:
The old world meets the new world order.

If gay marriage is okay why not polygamy or underage marriage? The court wishes to keep out of the bedroom.
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Let's seperate the issues since they are not the same.

Q - If gay marriage is ok, why not underage marriage?
A - Gay marriage is between consenting adults. An underage marriage does not involve consenting adults.

Q - If gay marriage is ok, why not polygamy?
A - I think this one us much harder to figure. If all adults are consenting, how can the government interfere? I'm sure there are laws that state a marriage is between two people...but then again there were laws that said a marriage is between one man and one woman before also...

IMO the polygamy laws will be much harder to defend in court then laws against underage marriages.

rrfield
 
rrfield

rrfield

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Gonz said:
In many UN nations, 13 is a consenting adult. Since we wish the UN to control matters...
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Age of consent also varies from state to state in the USA, though I do believe 18 is pretty standard for marriage.

rrfield
 
MrBishop

MrBishop

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I think that I'll follow Governor Ahnold's comments when he said

"I think that gay marriage should be between a man and a woman."
:lol2:
 
Inkara1

Inkara1

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You know, 100 years ago it was perfectly normal for a 14-year-old girl to marry a 30-year-old man. In America.
 
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