The war worked

[ris]

its certainly better than getting some rambling long worded bullshit from me

 

[Gato_Solo]

its certainly better than getting some rambling long worded bullshit from me

If you sent it, I wouldn't be able to read half of it anyway...what with all the misspelled words and all. Who, in their right mind, adds a 'u' to the word honor?

 

[ris]

is guess there are those that never believe the original is best
anyway, les would still add all them pesky u's and s's being a canuck

 

[flavio]

That's the wonderful about the United States - the right to completely bury your head in the sand the instant someone suggests something that goes against your spoon-fed ideas.

That means a lot coming from a person who claims that they're in France.

Let me put it this way...

1. There were some people against the war. Very vocal, and very organized.
2. Those folks wanted nothing to do with any part of the war...i e, they didn't want to do the job.
3. Now some of these same, who am I kidding, most of these same people are complaining because they want a piece of the rebuilding pie. Can you say hypocrite? I knew you could.

Notice the backpedaling from Gato's ealier point that anti-war folks were plain against rebuilding Iraq to a new point where he claims that they all want a piece of the rebuilding "pie".

As if this "pie" is some glorious reward to be bestowed upon the conquering army.

The theory is a country that believes ShrubCo was wrong for invading a country that was not a threat, should also have no problem watching ShrubCo hand out huge shady contracts to friends to rebuild the country the wrongly invaded.

Or maybe his theory is if a country believes another country was wrongly invaded you have no business trying to help that country after the invasion.

Either way I think he's got the wrong definition for hypocrit.

 

[outside looking in]

So now Iraq wasn't a threat? Jesus... that whole region of the world is a threat to the rest of the world, and we've taken the correct steps thus far in protecting ourselves against that threat; but most importantly we've taken the correct steps in eliminating that threat.

 

[ris]

if iraq haad little or nothing in the way of wmd's [as may or may not be case from recent disclosures] and the apparently next to broke military it showed out then the threat must surely be minimal to the region and nominal to anyone outside.

connections to terrorism mostly tenuous, apparently little in the way of weapons capability - lots of mouth but no trouser.

 

[flavio]

So now Iraq wasn't a threat? Jesus... that whole region of the world is a threat to the rest of the world, and we've taken the correct steps thus far in protecting ourselves against that threat; but most importantly we've taken the correct steps in eliminating that threat.

They weren't even a threat when invaded on their own soil.

Maybe we should just take over the world to eliminate any possible threats?

 

[ris]

shh...don't let on the entire plan

this war was brought to you by mcdonalds and aol, bringing delicious burgers to your democratised country with the awesome buggy power of free disks.

 

[a13antichrist]

That's the wonderful about the United States - the right to completely bury your head in the sand the instant someone suggests something that goes against your spoon-fed ideas.

That means a lot coming from a person who claims that they're in France.

Let me put it this way...

1. There were some people against the war. Very vocal, and very organized.
2. Those folks wanted nothing to do with any part of the war...i e, they didn't want to do the job.
3. Now some of these same, who am I kidding, most of these same people are complaining because they want a piece of the rebuilding pie. Can you say hypocrite? I knew you could.

You want me to take a photo of the street sign out of our living room window?

In any case I was talking about people's reaction to flav, not the topic itself...

 

[outside looking in]

I've explained in detail in numerous previous posts how the instability in the ME (which Iraq plays a very key role in) is dangerous for everyone. I'm not about to repeat it, because it is lengthy, you people probably don't care to read it, and even if you did it wouldn't change your opinion of the war, Bush, me, or anything else.

So why bother?

 

[ris]

the question must surely be whether us/uk presence in the me is going to increase or decrease stability to the region. i think that its one of the least stabilising things and will only serve to breed paranoia and hatred in sourrounding countries.

i think the best way to increase stability is thankfully beginning to be carried out in israel-palestine. helping to create a lasting peace there will do more for countering instability and terrorism toward the west than invading every dictator we take a dislike to.