Waterboarding was okay in 2002

BeardofPants said:
I want you to know that I just reported your post Jim. This is NOT debating. This is trading insults. Ugh.
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Report away. Perhaps you should have read this before you wandered in here.

Subjects unsuitable for polite company. Politics, Religion, Abortion and other highly charged topics. Personal attacks will not be tolerated. However, it does get ugly. It can get personal. Don't say you weren't warned.
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spike said:
Actually, it's time you back up this quote of yours:
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Try these. If any are incorrect, I expect you will correct me.

  • You are for habeas corpus for these people.
  • You are against the U.S. extracting intel from them by any means possible.
  • You defend these people who cut the heads off of people, burn them alive, etc. and decry some broad putting a pair of women's panties over a Muslim's head as "torture".
  • You want them treated as prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention even though they do not conform to the tenets of that convention.
  • You want a time table for the withdrawal of all troops from Iraq.

All of the above gives aid and comfort to the enemy.
 
2minkey said:
you upset about the wang thing?
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SOURCE

Wang Dang Doodle
Howlin' Wolf, Koko Taylor

Tell Automatic Slim , tell Razor Totin' Jim
Tell Butcher Knife Totin' Annie, tell Fast Talking Fanny
A we gonna pitch a ball, a down to that union hall
We gonna romp and tromp till midnight
We gonna fuss and fight till daylight
We gonna pitch a wang dang doodle all night long
All night long, All night long, All night long

Tell Kudu-Crawlin' Red, tell Abyssinian Ned
Tell ol' Pistol Pete, everybody gonna meet
Tonight we need no rest, we really gonna throw a mess
We gonna to break out all of the windows,
we gonna kick down all the doors
We gonna pitch a wang dang doodle all night long
All night long, All night long, All night long

Tell Fats and Washboard Sam, that everybody gonna to jam
Tell Shaky and Boxcar Joe, we got sawdust on the floor
Tell Peg and Caroline Dye, we gonna have a time
When the fish scent fill the air, there'll be snuff juice everywhere
We gonna pitch a wang dang doodle all night long
All night long, All night long etc.

by Willie Dixon
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2minkey said:
you upset about the wang thing?
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Or perhaps His Assholiness himself Emperor Wang the Perverted of the planet Porno from "Flesh Gordon" (1974)?

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Subjects unsuitable for polite company. Politics, Religion, Abortion and other highly charged topics. Personal attacks will not be tolerated. However, it does get ugly. It can get personal. Don't say you weren't warned.
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:shrug:

Of course, nothing was done about it, so perhaps personal attacks are ok now? :shrug:
 
BeardofPants said:
I hear you can get disposable ones now for women who want to pee standing up (what, some of those toilets are positively unhygenic). :lol:
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Whereas a lot of guys can't even hit the damn thing. I always wonder it they pee all over the floor at home as well.
 
BeardofPants said:
:shrug:

Of course, nothing was done about it, so perhaps personal attacks are ok now? :shrug:
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It wasn't a personal attack. It was my opinion based on his incessant anti-American, pro-terrorist posts.

You may have noticed that he has yet to answer any interrogatory placed before him haven't you?
 
BeardofPants said:
I hear you can get disposable ones now for women who want to pee standing up (what, some of those toilets are positively unhygenic). :lol:
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As I once explained to a lady trucker who was lamenting her inability to just go anywhere like her husband -- having to wait for the next stop -- women can pee standing up.

The only thing that makes it a messy affair for women is the enclosure of the meatus of the urethra by the labia. If the labia are opened to expose the meatus a woman will then pee in a stream. It takes some practice and I recommended she do so in the shower. Not exactly rocket science.
 
It's not specifically adressed nor are teh detainees protected under the GC since they are not protected civilians or members of the armed forces.
 
jimpeel said:
It wasn't a personal attack. It was my opinion based on his incessant anti-American, pro-terrorist posts.
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it wasn't an attack, it was pure lunatic fringe FEARspeak!

"pro-terrorist" ha ha ha. man you sure got that pom pom shit down. you should be a journalist.

yeah i'm sure spike's running a madrasa in his back yard.
 
I never thought I'd live long enough to see American citizens bitching about violating the "rights" of sworn enemy combatants who try to kill us. To Hell with their "rights". Blow a few dozen of 'em to Jupiter and I'd bet the next'uns won't be so damn quick to fly airplanes into skyscrapers. Get these vermin off the planet so they can go have their 72 virgins or whatever.
 
SouthernN'Proud said:
I never thought I'd live long enough to see American citizens bitching about violating the "rights" of sworn enemy combatants who try to kill us. To Hell with their "rights". Blow a few dozen of 'em to Jupiter and I'd bet the next'uns won't be so damn quick to fly airplanes into skyscrapers. Get these vermin off the planet so they can go have their 72 virgins or whatever.
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See, there's your problem right there SnP. They're happy to die, proud to do it. As a people, I think that we simply can't wrap our minds around that. Killing them or torturing them does more for them than it does for us and does nothing at all to deter them. :shrug: I could give a shit about their rights. In fact I could give a shit about torturing them (or anyone else that needs it) myself. You don't torture to gain information, you torture to incite fear. Stomp on their throats until they capitulate. Sound familiar? If, however, you are attempting to present yourself or your society as "better" than theirs you have to draw the line somewhere (actually a lot of somewheres). In this case, this seems like a good place to draw it to me. :shrug: As I say, it flies in the face of my personal feelings but I do think our society in general is much "better" than theirs and the more ways we show it the better.
 
chcr said:
See, there's your problem right there SnP. They're happy to die, proud to do it.
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And I'm happy to accomodate 'em. Proud to accomodate 'em.

As for torture...I'm agin it. But I'm in full support of skinning some asshole alive with a dull rusty butter knife if said asshole can provide information to save one innocent life. Contradictory notions? Maybe. But I sleep like a rock at night.

I'm fairly content with my grasp of their mindset/motivation. I can wrap my mind around it right good. To them, it's holy war. They are zealots. Hence, no earthly force will deter them. That's why they need to be eradicated. If their belief structure rewards these acts as martyrdom, then that's fine. Help 'em out. All Achnad has to do to get his eternal reward is ride his camel up in the yard, take out a box cutter, and let me know he's here to collect his virgins. Eight seconds later, he's face to face with his maker. He's happy, I'm happy, nobody'll miss him, and all ends well. The very essence of win-win. Please form an orderly line out next to the barn and wait your turn.
 
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