We Do Not Torture

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President Bush on Monday defended U.S. interrogation practices and called the treatment of terrorism suspects lawful. "We do not torture," Bush declared in response to reports of secret CIA prisons overseas. Bush supported an effort spearheaded by Vice President Dick Cheney to block or modify a proposed Senate-passed ban on torture.
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Why block the ban if we don't torture? How can he say "we don't torture" when we'll all seen proof that we do? It seem like another famous Bush occurence of telling people what they want to hear and they'll ignore all proof to the contrary.


On Monday, the Pentagon announced that five additional terror suspects at Guantanamo will face military trials on various charges including attacking civilians and murder. That brought to nine out of about 500 detainees at the facility who have been charged with criminal offenses.
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That's good. Only 490 or so left imprisoned without charges.


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flavio said:
How can he say "we don't torture" when we'll all seen proof that we do?
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Abu Ghraib? Torture it wasn't.
Main Entry: 1tor·ture
Pronunciation: 'tor-ch&r
Function: noun
Etymology: French, from Late Latin tortura, from Latin tortus, past participle of torquEre to twist; probably akin to Old High German drAhsil turner, Greek atraktos spindle
1 a : anguish of body or mind : AGONY b : something that causes agony or pain
2 : the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure
3 : distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument : STRAINING
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we shouldn't fight our enemies
we must hug them and kiss them and give em
korans prayer rugs and arrows pointing towards mecca and...

fookin' bullshit

torture them, kill them and go a lookin' for more!

yep the moosies can't defeat the west only the west can defeat the west
 
We've been thru it already. If you want Iraqi torture you may want to start here;

ABU AL KHASIB, Iraq (CNN) -- A torture chamber equipped with hooks hanging from ceilings and an on-site electrocution room has been found in the basement of an Iraqi police station, an embedded reporter with the BBC reports.
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compare that too the Americans;
Detainees have reported being routinely subjected to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment during arrest and detention. Many have told Amnesty International that they were tortured and ill-treated by US and UK troops during interrogation.

Methods often reported include:
  • prolonged sleep deprivation
  • beatings
  • prolonged restraint in painful positions, sometimes combined with exposure to loud music
  • prolonged hooding
  • exposure to bright lights
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funny, it's all against the geneva convention. and beatings is torture.

and there is a change that this hook lined cell in iraq was set up by the CIA in the first place.
 
Gonz said:
We've been thru it already. If you want Iraqi torture you may want to start here;
compare that too the Americans;
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Now you're saying our torture is better? Great.
 
We have disco. We have Ashlee Simpson. We have Dora the Explorer. Of course we condone torture. We've been doing it for 40 years now to the general public.
 
unclehobart said:
We have disco. We have Ashlee Simpson. We have Dora the Explorer. Of course we condone torture. We've been doing it for 40 years now to the general public.
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HEY! I like Dora...great show! Ya wanna knock someone, try Barney the paedophilic dinosaur! :p
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Gonz said:
compare that too the Americans;

Detainees have reported being routinely subjected to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment during arrest and detention. Many have told Amnesty International that they were tortured and ill-treated by US and UK troops during interrogation.

Methods often reported include:
  • prolonged sleep deprivation
  • beatings
  • prolonged restraint in painful positions, sometimes combined with exposure to loud music
  • prolonged hooding
  • exposure to bright lights
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You left out a bunch of examples for some reason........


  • Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet.
  • Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees.
  • Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing.
  • Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time.
  • Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear.
  • Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate while being photographed and videotaped.
  • Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them.
  • Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture.


A detainee forced to stand on boxes




  • Writing "I am a Rapeist" [sic] on the leg of a detainee alleged to have raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked.
  • Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture.
  • A male MP guard raping a female detainee.
  • Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees and MPs posing with cheerful looks.
  • Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees.
  • Threatening detainees with a loaded 9mm pistol.
  • Pouring cold water on naked detainees.
  • Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair.
  • Threatening male detainees with rape.
  • Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell.
  • Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick.
  • Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting and severely injuring a detainee.
 
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Of that list
Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet.
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Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair.
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and
Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick.
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could fall under the term torture.

The list I got was what was provided by Amnesty International. Your list reads like a SF gay bath weekend.
 
I got it.

It just hit me. Out of the blue.

The solution to this whole damn mess. WHY has no one thought of this before?


It's so simple, really.

It fits the PC bullshit too...about treating everybody the way they do in their homeland.



God, I oughta get a medal for this one...










Here's what we do with 'em.


Put 'em all in a great big tall building. Then fly an airplane into it.



So amazingly simple...wonder why no one else thought of it yet?
 
Gonz said:
Of that list....
could fall under the term torture.
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Interesting to know that you have no issue with....

A male MP guard raping a female detainee.
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Regardless of your own personal approval of rape and other things I think the Geneva Convention says otherwise.
 
* Writing "I am a Rapeist" [sic] on the leg of a detainee alleged to have raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked.
* Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture.
* A male MP guard raping a female detainee.
* Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees and MPs posing with cheerful looks.
* Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees.
* Threatening detainees with a loaded 9mm pistol.
* Pouring cold water on naked detainees.
* Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair.
* Threatening male detainees with rape.
* Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell.
* Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick.
* Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting and severely injuring a detainee.
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Seems like torture. Probably because it is
 
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