Welp, guess who just got laid off?
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Justintime
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Oh man that so sucks man! 
My friend had to go back to a place a few days ago where he quit from and told em to sod it, now cause he got sacked hes askin back for the job, how much you wanna bet hes gettin that job back?
My friend had to go back to a place a few days ago where he quit from and told em to sod it, now cause he got sacked hes askin back for the job, how much you wanna bet hes gettin that job back? 
Inkara1
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Especially since that extra hour pushed you over eight per day, which means overtime. And since you're not 18 yet (if I remember right), that could get him into trouble. All comments I make are based on California law, of course, but I'm sure the fundamentals of Indiana law are similar.
That said, I get the feeling that although he was mad, he probably figured that it was an error. If you get hired back and do the same thing with the timesheet, you'll probably get in a lot more trouble because you've been told.
That said, I get the feeling that although he was mad, he probably figured that it was an error. If you get hired back and do the same thing with the timesheet, you'll probably get in a lot more trouble because you've been told.
greenfreak
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alex said:
No, I wasn't kidding. I'm under the impression that fury was not deliberately falsifying his time sheet but instead that he made a mistake. If they didn't specifically lay out the hours he's supposed to work, lunch hour, and overtime, who's fault is it that fury made an error? The way I look at it, a *good* manager watches over new people and corrects their errors before it becomes a problem. Especially with someone that they know has never had a job before. I wonder who's job it is to check that time sheet before it gets submitted?
flurffmeister
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Over here, overtime means working over 40 hours at any given week. I never did that, but just to be sure I asked my store manager what would happen if I had to do overtime, he said it wouldn't be a big deal. If I was called in enough to be doing overtime, it would be by his decision and not by me just wanting to put in more hours.Inkara1 said:
I knew that my specific hours on tuesdays and thursdays were from 9 to 6 and on saturdays from 12 to 4, but from looking at the manager's time sheet, I figured logging to the closest quarter hour whenever I got in was fine (he sometimes marks down 8:30 on the days that business starts at 9, and 6:30 when it closes at 6:00) But I never came in at 8:30 unless I knew there was a lot of work that was gonna be done. On this particular tuesday, there was that problem PC with the shit networking that I took the whole day to figure out it was the motherboardgreenfreak said:
and so I came in on 8:30... marked down my expected hours on the time sheet (8:30-6) and gave the time sheet to the parent company's secretary, and later walked in and got the check. I think the owner himself is the only person who looks over the timesheet, that or Brian (the store manager) didn't see a problem with it. The thing is, neither of them ever told me beforehand that the lunch break hour was required unless there's a ton of work to be done. Brian talked to me about it like it was an optional thing in case I wanted to go pick up a lunch from a fast food joint or had to go pick up my brothers.Yes, I didn't know that they were actually extra hours though. But the owner reiterated still that in no way was that any factor in my being laid off. Strictly business. I'm just kinda peeved Brian told me one way and the owner wanted it another way. They must not communicate very well.alex said:
greenfreak
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Do you mark down lunch hours on time sheets? With us, it's taken out whether we use it or not to save them the trouble. I believe that you must take at least a 1/2 hour lunch if you're working 6 hours and 1 hour if you work 8 hours? Not sure if that's a nationwide thing or a NY thing.
Well fury, next time, at least you know to ask beforehand about extra hours. Even if it's a lax environment, that way it can't come around to bite you in the ass later.
My first boss drilled this rule into my head, and it has served me well over the years: Cover Your Ass.
Well fury, next time, at least you know to ask beforehand about extra hours. Even if it's a lax environment, that way it can't come around to bite you in the ass later.
My first boss drilled this rule into my head, and it has served me well over the years: Cover Your Ass.
alex
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We had an employee who was 'spoken to' about the lunch hour thing recently. He wasn't taking any lunch time at all, just working 8 hours straight thru. He was told he must take at least 45 minutes during an 8 hour shift. Much to my surprise, my manager stood up for him and drilled the HR lady about it not being in the employee manual...he didn't win.
Once when I was a lead person, I had to gather computer log information on an employee who was falsifying his time card. This company paid time and half for overtime and double time on Sunday if you worked 40 hour week + 6 or more hours on Saturday. This guy was puttin down a lot of time on the weekend knowing good and damn well there were other employees in the same dept. that did come in on the weekend. He was escorted out of the building immediatly once we had gathered proof he never even came in on the weekend. What a dumbass
Once when I was a lead person, I had to gather computer log information on an employee who was falsifying his time card. This company paid time and half for overtime and double time on Sunday if you worked 40 hour week + 6 or more hours on Saturday. This guy was puttin down a lot of time on the weekend knowing good and damn well there were other employees in the same dept. that did come in on the weekend. He was escorted out of the building immediatly once we had gathered proof he never even came in on the weekend. What a dumbass
HomeLAN
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If you're hourly, lunch hours and breaks are mandated by both federal and state law. That's not the case if you're salaried. Your HR person was in the right.
Time card falsification is gorunds for a fast pink slip. Errors are grounds for education (with most reasonable employers).
That would be a career limiting maneuver.
Time card falsification is gorunds for a fast pink slip. Errors are grounds for education (with most reasonable employers).
ris said:
That would be a career limiting maneuver.
flurffmeister
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There's a spot for the lunch hours on the time sheet, but like I said, I interpreted it like it was optional.greenfreak said:
I wouldn't intentionally falsify the time sheet.
Aunty Em
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greenfreak said:I have wanted to do that SO MANY TIMES but I always refrained. That must have felt great.
The shock on his face was something to behold but they shouldn't have pushed me over the edge. I put up with the crap for 6 years before I finally snapped. And yes, finally having said what I really thought was very satisfying.
In this incidence I had returned to work after 13 months on sickleave recovering from my bike accident. I was still under orders from my doctor to treat my leg with respect and not get in banged. But I went back early under pressure from the hospital because they were short-staffed. So what do they do? They put me as the only female staff on the villa for disturbed male patients.
In the 3 weeks that I worked I was attacked 4 times - I was bitten, had my hair yanked out by the roots, had a table thrown at me and was pushed down the stairs. I requested several times to be moved because of my leg and was ignored.
Before my accident I would probably have put up with this, but I changed while I fought my way back to health and was having none of it this time. So I tidied up loose ends and told my boss a few home truths. They tried to say I owed them money, but in the end they owed me. In retrospect I could have had them for constructive dismissal but I was just glad to be out of a system that's so bureacratic it's impossible to do anything that might really benefit your clients. Something had to break and it wasn't going to be me.
Some people think I should let my daughter be cared for by these people, but while there is a breath still in my body and strength in my arm I will never consign her to that living hell. Just because the structure has changed doesn't mean the attitudes or the bureacracy have.
You are required by law to take 2 breaks & a lunch. Take them. Log in as long as you're at work. If the boss doesnt like that I've got a couple of Labor Board workers he should talk to. Never allow them to shortchange you.
IN law-:20 minute or longer lunch break. 2-:15 minute breaks in am 8 hour day. OT=over 40 hours per week.
IN law-:20 minute or longer lunch break. 2-:15 minute breaks in am 8 hour day. OT=over 40 hours per week.
flurffmeister
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I didn't take them though, Gonz. Even when there was no work to be done.