What aspects of your life will be tied to health care costs?

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
I would like to have you prognosticate what new laws and regulations will be enacted which will control how you live your life because of the cost to health care.

We already see sugar, sodas, and salt starting to be targeted because of obesity and blood pressure issues.

So, have at it. Let's hear your predictions. Serious posts would be appreciated.

Here are a couple of mine:

The 55 mph speed limit will return because high speed crashes create more injuries and this affects health care costs.

Participation in sports activities will be regulated by permit and the fees gleaned from those permits will be used to offset the costs to health care brought on by these risky activities. The more dangerous the activity, the higher the fees.

What say you?
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
I'm still piecing the monstrosity together.
There's more 'references' in the bill than my Scofield Bible.

It seems there is a lot left up to the discretion of "some person as yet unknown". (or panel)
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
let us count the ways the sky might fall. woe is us. woe.
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a matter of perspective I suppose.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
REAL 'mericans wouldn't be asking chicken little questions, but figurin' out how to make money off this new health care thingy.

nice pic RM. yes, the world is ending. just like all those other countries that no longer exist because of bloated public heath care. maybe you can help me make a list.... germany... now there's an unproductive place... sky fell on them years ago uh huh french friend potatoes. :erm:
 

MrBishop

Well-Known Member
Smoking!
Aw crap..that's already the way in the pre-Obamacare way of doing things? Sheet...why didn't anyone tell me.

WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR OF ENACTMENT

*Insurance companies will be barred from dropping people from coverage when they get sick. Lifetime coverage limits will be eliminated and annual limits are to be restricted.

*Insurers will be barred from excluding children for coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

*Young adults will be able to stay on their parents' health plans until the age of 26. Many health plans currently drop dependents from coverage when they turn 19 or finish college.

*Uninsured adults with a pre-existing conditions will be able to obtain health coverage through a new program that will expire once new insurance exchanges begin operating in 2014.

*A temporary reinsurance program is created to help companies maintain health coverage for early retirees between the ages of 55 and 64. This also expires in 2014.

*Medicare drug beneficiaries who fall into the "doughnut hole" coverage gap will get a $250 rebate. The bill eventually closes that gap which currently begins after $2,700 is spent on drugs. Coverage starts again after $6,154 is spent.

*A tax credit becomes available for some small businesses to help provide coverage for workers.

*A 10 percent tax on indoor tanning services that use ultraviolet lamps goes into effect on July 1.

WHAT HAPPENS IN 2011

*Medicare provides 10 percent bonus payments to primary care physicians and general surgeons.

*Medicare beneficiaries will be able to get a free annual wellness visit and personalized prevention plan service. New health plans will be required to cover preventive services with little or no cost to patients.

*A new program under the Medicaid plan for the poor goes into effect in October that allows states to offer home and community based care for the disabled that might otherwise require institutional care.

*Payments to insurers offering Medicare Advantage services are frozen at 2010 levels. These payments are to be gradually reduced to bring them more in line with traditional Medicare.

*Employers are required to disclose the value of health benefits on employees' W-2 tax forms.

*An annual fee is imposed on pharmaceutical companies according to market share. The fee does not apply to companies with sales of $5 million or less.

WHAT HAPPENS IN 2012

*Physician payment reforms are implemented in Medicare to enhance primary care services and encourage doctors to form "accountable care organizations" to improve quality and efficiency of care.

*An incentive program is established in Medicare for acute care hospitals to improve quality outcomes.

*The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which oversees the government programs, begin tracking hospital readmission rates and puts in place financial incentives to reduce preventable readmissions.

WHAT HAPPENS IN 2013

*A national pilot program is established for Medicare on payment bundling to encourage doctors, hospitals and other care providers to better coordinate patient care.

*The threshold for claiming medical expenses on itemized tax returns is raised to 10 percent from 7.5 percent of income. The threshold remains at 7.5 percent for the elderly through 2016.

*The Medicare payroll tax is raised to 2.35 percent from 1.45 percent for individuals earning more than $200,000 and married couples with incomes over $250,000. The tax is imposed on some investment income for that income group.

*A 2.9 percent excise tax in imposed on the sale of medical devices. Anything generally purchased at the retail level by the public is excluded from the tax.

WHAT HAPPENS IN 2014

*State health insurance exchanges for small businesses and individuals open.

*Most people will be required to obtain health insurance coverage or pay a fine if they don't. Healthcare tax credits become available to help people with incomes up to 400 percent of poverty purchase coverage on the exchange.

*Health plans no longer can exclude people from coverage due to pre-existing conditions.

*Employers with 50 or more workers who do not offer coverage face a fine of $2,000 for each employee if any worker receives subsidized insurance on the exchange. The first 30 employees aren't counted for the fine.

*Health insurance companies begin paying a fee based on their market share.

WHAT HAPPENS IN 2015

*Medicare creates a physician payment program aimed at rewarding quality of care rather than volume of services.

WHAT HAPPENS IN 2018

*An excise tax on high cost employer-provided plans is imposed. The first $27,500 of a family plan and $10,200 for individual coverage is exempt from the tax. Higher levels are set for plans covering retirees and people in high risk professions.
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
they aren't going to "try", they are going to "do".
until....
there's only the gov. ins. program left, because all the private companies closed.
Welcome to the USSA.
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
Farmers are raping us too, diving nice trucks-n-shit. Let's force them to work for free to feed us, food is a right.

Yeah, I want to model our nation after France lo.lololol.

Pretend all you like, this will not end well.
 

valkyrie

Well-Known Member
Farmers are raping us too, diving nice trucks-n-shit. Let's force them to work for free to feed us, food is a right.

Yeah, I want to model our nation after France lo.lololol.

Pretend all you like, this will not end well.
I've got news for you, RM, farmers in France do not feed anyone for free. ;) I'm not sure where you're getting that information from.
 

valkyrie

Well-Known Member
they aren't going to "try", they are going to "do".
until....
there's only the gov. ins. program left, because all the private companies closed.
Welcome to the USSA.
There is no gov't insurance program for everyone, only Medicare and Medicaid which not many people qualify for.
 

catocom

Well-Known Member
There is no gov't insurance program for everyone, only Medicare and Medicaid which not many people qualify for.

oh, they have one. They just haven't opened the doors yet.
Gotta have bailout of the current ins. companies first. (more) Look for that soon.
That will be the start of That Change you can believe in, in earnest.
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
Food is right, it should be provided by the government and those evil farmers should quit making a profit off of food.

amidoinitrite?


OMG! How dare the government try to regulate insurance companies and force them to stop ass raping us! This is America, dammit! We should be given as many ass rapings as the insurance companies see fit for us! :mad:
It's much better when we ass/face/abdominally rape and kill the insurance companies. :cocktail:

Single payer universal health care is the plan.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Smoking!
Aw crap..that's already the way in the pre-Obamacare way of doing things? Sheet...why didn't anyone tell me.

WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR OF ENACTMENT

*Insurance companies will be barred from dropping people from coverage when they get sick. Lifetime coverage limits will be eliminated and annual limits are to be restricted.

*Insurers will be barred from excluding children for coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

Month 2, insurance companies go out of business
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Diana Smith has gone through six months of radiation and chemotherapy -- one week out of every month. She is in remission and had a donor for a transplant; being in remission is prerequisite for the transplant.

In April, (her insurance) canceled her universal health care policy because her income level had risen with her son's payments – making her ineligible for the insurance program. The problem is Jackson Memorial Hospital cannot provide the procedure because the risk is too high.

Her insurance carrier? Medicaid.

The reason? Social Security.

Can you say Death panel?
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
The thing I love about the "QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS" (H.R. 3590) is that they left out half of us.

The word "breast" appears 40 times in the text of the law.

The word "prostate" appears nowhere in the law.

Breast cancer, breast feeding, breast milk expression, breast awareness, etc. are all over the place. Who cares if men have a healthy prostate. Just shut up and die.
 
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