When Karl Rove said.......

A ded terrorist is a good terrorist

the only good commie is ones' that's ded

Aw C'Mon Chiccy your mantra that U.S. good guys are the
same oh a same oh as insurgents or Viet-Cong or Soviet Gulag masters is a wearin' thin and is just as 'booring'
as you find our chant that those that side with evil ain't the good guys.

Only difference is


we is "Right" and you durned well know it

bugs ya don't it
deep down it bugs ya but you can't bring yerself to
abandon yer deeply held childhood mis-conceptions

leave it all behind ya know ya wanna...

Don’t tell me you grew up cheering for the Indians
and disliked the guys in the White Hat??? :eek13:
 
chcr said:
Can't argue with that. Point is that neither circumstance would solve or even address the problem.



I agree with that. The problem is both sides ignore the problems they create by doing this and the problem will not get solved. I feel they will not address the problem because they are a problem in and of themselves
 
so what is the solution

ignore them or
surrender to them?

If not that, then WHAT?!?

In her rage right after 9-11 and upon learning
of the loss of two close friends that died in the towers
she may have been closer to the mark than most:

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Is there a solution? Genocide is unpalatable (and ultimately unworkable) and clearly neither side has the capability to get along with the other. Convert them to christianity by force? Well, you'd have to kill me, I doubt that most of them would feel differently.
 
Ever hear about the conversion of millions throughout history? Actually primitive religions Christian or otherwise don't really further human progress.

Sadly the real solution is the one currently being attempted.
Bringing these folks into the 21st century
would be a long hard row to hoe. We've not the stomach
for such a lengthy endeavor with such a miniscule payoff at the end.

After all WTF is in it for us? (if it wasn’t for oil, no one would give a hoot)

Better to kill the one's that pose an immediate threat and get back to our
Broadband, Beewbies and Beer!
 
"Genocide is unpalatable"

Oh it is the most workable solution.
Just no longer acceptable it is
So not Politically Correct.
So the tougher solution must be employed.

Civilizing the savages.
 
Winky said:
"Genocide is unpalatable"

Oh it is the most workable solution.
Just no longer acceptable it is
So not Politically Correct.
So the tougher solution must be employed.

Civilizing the savages.
You really believe the rest of the world would sit by and let us do it?

Sadly the real solution is the one currently being attempted.
Bringing these folks into the 21st century
would be a long hard row to hoe.

Well, your correct as far as it goes. This is the solution. Unfortunately, again, this stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. Makes it that much harder to pull off.
 
chcr said:
You really believe the rest of the world would sit by and let us do it?

don't think for one minute I advocate such a thing but...


The supposed world wouldn't stop us
why do you believe otherwise?

Recently I was talking to my Son.
I told him to fully expect in his lifetime a terrorist attack
employing weapons of mass destruction specifically a
crude fission device of a yield similar to the weapons employed against Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

He holds that the United States would then employ nukes in retaliation and I told him "No Way"!
First even if we had a verified target we'd gain nothing by incinerating civilians.

Nope can you see the outcry over such an event?
The left might have to tone down their anti-American rhetoric once there is a radioactive smokin' hole where the downtown of an American city used to be.

If the efforts taken so far are thwarted by elements within this country
(because the AIF and others certainly can not prevail)
then one fine day when the mushroom cloud rises
my Kid can say "Yep Dad said this would happen, now
I want to see genocide against the Middle East, fuck them!"
 
Winky said:
don't think for one minute I advocate such a thing but...

I know people who do though. It's more than a little scary. I don't wanna see WWIII because I don't think most of us would live through it.
 
Is there a solution?


Possibly but in no way is it going to be easy to get to. Since, as you said, we cannot see eye to eye with them and they cannot with us that puts us in the problem. However I dont think forcing them to convert is a good solution. I am for understanding where they are coming from and trying to stop it from there but that takes too long. The biggest problem I see right now is that using violence means they will use violence back and reinforces their hate of us
 
Qur’an 8:60:
“Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power,
including steeds of war, to strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy.”
 
chcr said:
A fair number of Americans truly believe that if you kill enough muslims the problem will disappear, Bish.

I'd like to see where you're getting that information, because most of the people I talk to don't think that way. Is this information readily available, or did you just pull it out of your ass? :D
 
Gato_Solo said:
I'd like to see where you're getting that information, because most of the people I talk to don't think that way. Is this information readily available, or did you just pull it out of your ass? :D


A few have stated that although most do not wish to eradicate all Muslims just the extremists. Very few have said anything about eradicating all but some do feel that way sadly
 
Gato_Solo said:
I'd like to see where you're getting that information, because most of the people I talk to don't think that way. Is this information readily available, or did you just pull it out of your ass? :D

Strictly anecdotal, Gato. It's a reasonably popular attitude around here though. Convert 'em (to christianity of course) or kill 'em. Most people around here only know about Islam what their preachers tell them, and a lot of them have been told it's evil.

Qur’an 8:60:
“Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power,
including steeds of war, to strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy.”
I read stuff like that everywhere, don't you?
Kind of like non-christians only quoting parts of the bible that advocate violence or some such, huh?
 
I read stuff like that everywhere, don't you?
Kind of like non-christians only quoting parts of the bible that advocate violence or some such, huh




well said. But taking anything out of context is what many use for their arguments.
 
chcr said:
I read stuff like that everywhere, don't you?
Kind of like non-christians only quoting parts of the bible that advocate violence or some such, huh?

Nope. First I've seen of it. Perhaps you, and the people you hang out with, are the problem, and not society in general...;)
 
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