World AIDS day

Unprotected heterosexual sex.
Unprotected homosexual sex.
Transfusion through needles (drug use etc).
Transfusion through unsafe medical practices.
During pregnancy & at birth.
 
He said 'common' and I'd think he meant in the west.

A widdle clue is in here with the nineteen to one statistic.


infibulation!!! :eek13:
 
Gato_Solo said:
So we're back to the main point...What is the most common way that AIDS is spread?
People who don't want to use condoms and people who don't know that they should use condoms.

The former in Europe, Asia and the Americas, the latter in Africa, India and China.
 
Winky said:
infibulation!!! :eek13:
Just in case people were curious...

TRANSITIVE VERB:
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To close off or obstruct the genitals of, especially by sewing together the labia majora in females or fastening the prepuce in males, so as to prevent sexual intercourse.
 
AlphaTroll said:
Unprotected heterosexual sex.
Unprotected homosexual sex.
Transfusion through needles (drug use etc).
Transfusion through unsafe medical practices.
During pregnancy & at birth.

This might suprise some folk, but having unprotected sex with the same one person over and over again isn't likely to produce an infection unless one of the pair is busy fucking someone else too. Comes back to the same point, doesn't it? Common old fashionned morals keep you safe. Humping everything that moves, and half of what doesn't gets you infected and dead. And extends that to everyone you've touched. Your spouse, your children, and even the neighbour who got a transfusion from you. I think I may have mentionned before how one single act of betrayal is more than enough to damn someone IMO. Evidently, it is in Nature's view too.

Oh, and about the AIDS in Africa, we've talked about it here before, but I'll just cover one salient point again, for anyone who missed it. The average female in Africa is raped usually before she even gets to puberty, usually be her own family. Gang rape is so common it's not even shunned anymore. Many african males have undergone circumcision (a major taboo in their cultures) because it supposedly protects against AIDS rather than stop humping everything that doesn't have a penis (including monkeys). Now I know that not all Africans are like that. I know that not all African countries are like that. But, I'm not seeing much action (that is to say, the news here isn't carrying) of any major reforms to stop it by those more civilized neighbours. In fact, I hear more about action taken to stop female circumcision than about stopping the wholesale rape of the female population. Sorry, but anytime people are so obsessed with sex they're willing to chop off part of their penis than stop fucking, and are willing to risk what they know is a horrible death ..... They've earned their pay. I feel for their innocent victims. But at the same time, they've given those victims the ability to destroy their attackers.
 
MrBishop said:
People who don't want to use condoms and people who don't know that they should use condoms.

The former in Europe, Asia and the Americas, the latter in Africa, India and China.

It's a little more complicated than that Bish. In Africa for instance there is a lot of cultural influences that prevent people from trusting the 'western' information they receive.

For instance, our government spends millions every year on educating & informing people re HIV / AIDS. However there is a major problem with a social belief that sex with a virgin can cure AIDS (there are still many sangomas / tribal doctors at work in SA and it is customary that people visit them before visiting western doctors). This unfortunately often leads to the rape of young girls (even children as it is believed that the younger the virgin the more potent the cure) and their subsequent infection. It's a sad, sick fact about the disease in this country. I think in some ways those men are so desperate to believe that they can be cured that they will do anything. Castration would be to good for them IMO.

Of course it does not help that so-called experts from Europe, like a certain Dr. Matthias Rath, comes in here and spouts bullshit like vitamins will cure AIDS. He reckons that the pharmaceutical companies are exploiting the AIDS crisis just to make themselves rich....so people should rather by his vitamins...can you say doublestandards fat fuck? (sorry Bish - that's for Rath, not you)
 
Professur said:
The average female in Africa is raped usually before she even gets to puberty, usually be her own family. Gang rape is so common it's not even shunned anymore. Many african males have undergone circumcision (a major taboo in their cultures) because it supposedly protects against AIDS rather than stop humping everything that doesn't have a penis (including monkeys). Now I know that not all Africans are like that. I know that not all African countries are like that.
Average means most...usually about 75%. You can't throw out a statement like "The average female in Africa is raped usually before she even gets to puberty, usually be her own family" without backing it up somehow.
 
AlphaTroll said:
It's a little more complicated than that Bish. In Africa for instance there is a lot of cultural influences that prevent people from trusting the 'western' information they receive.
I'm not about to write a doctoral dissertation on the matter on here...merely trying to answer Gato's question as succinctly as possible.
 
MrBishop said:
Average means most...usually about 75%. You can't throw out a statement like "The average female in Africa is raped usually before she even gets to puberty, usually be her own family" without backing it up somehow.

Sure I can. Just did, in fact. I'll leave acceptance or denial to our resident African. I'm sure she can come up with much more valid and accurate statistics than I could from this side of the pond.

BTW, you're showing the pathetic nature of your Concordia education. Average has never, in my experience, meant most. And 75% of a binary has never, ever been average. You really should consider suing them and getting your money back.
 
Professur said:
Sure I can. Just did, in fact. I'll leave acceptance or denial to our resident African. I'm sure she can come up with much more valid and accurate statistics than I could from this side of the pond.

BTW, you're showing the pathetic nature of your Concordia education. Average has never, in my experience, meant most. And 75% of a binary has never, ever been average. You really should consider suing them and getting your money back.
take a look at a bell-curve. you're confusing median with average.
 
1. It's interesting that whenever anyone starts talking about comparative morality, their's is always carved in stone, as if if they had been raised in another culture their "morality" wouldn't be completely different. :shrug:

2. Some perspective:
US AIDS Deaths in 2003: 17,849
US Traffic Deaths in 2003: 44,800
US Alcohol Related Traffic Deaths in 2003: 17,013
 
chcr said:
1. It's interesting that whenever anyone starts talking about comparative morality, their's is always carved in stone, as if if they had been raised in another culture their "morality" wouldn't be completely different. :shrug:

2. Some perspective:
US AIDS Deaths in 2003: 17,849
US Traffic Deaths in 2003: 44,800
US Alcohol Related Deaths in 2003: 17,013

Don't forget
There have been 2,327 coalition deaths, 2,130 Americans, one Australian, 98 Britons, 13 Bulgarians, two Danes, two Dutch, two Estonians, one Hungarian, 26 Italians, one Kazakh, one Latvian, 17 Poles, one Salvadoran, three Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, two Thai and 18 Ukrainians in the war in Iraq as of December 5, 2005, according to a CNN count.
 
Gonz said:
Don't forget

Completely different, but not surprising that you don't think so.

So Prof, you seem to belive that had you been born and raised in a culture in which it was routine you would not mutilate your daughters so that they couldn't be promiscuous because it isn't "moral?"
 
Prof:Not in relation to a population. If you meant to say that exactly 50% of the population acts in this way...you'd still be wrong. That'd mean that 50% of the population does NOT act in this way. Therefore you could as easily say that the average female in Africa is NOT raped usually before she even gets to puberty, usually be her own family.

When you're talking a population...the term (statistically) average doesn't mean what you think it does.
 
chcr said:
Completely different, but not surprising that you don't think so.

So Prof, you seem to belive that had you been born and raised in a culture in which it was routine you would not mutilate your daughters so that they couldn't be promiscuous because it isn't "moral?"

Now Chic, that's a nice try. But you know as well as I do that sitting saying "What if" never works. I can't say what I'd do in their circumstances, simply because, were I in their circumstances, I'd not be me in the first place. But that doesn't make what they're doing right, either, does it?

If I may, I'd like to address on point of conversation. What, (in your opinions) are morals? For me, they're like the ten commandments (note, not capitalized). Not a religious doctrine, but simply rules to live by, and build society upon. Usually handed down from generation to generation, and steeped in the wisdom of thousands of people's learning from their own mistakes.

So what do you harbour as your own morals? And why?
 
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