k.... thanks.. sorry for being picky. I just don't like having quotes being busted down to less than the original meaning. It makes Gonzo look like a mod when he isnt. Gonzo is a normal member. Its the GODzo persona that always threw me. I never saw why he shouldn't wear an admin title full time if he has admin powers. I was being picky about both halves of the quote because he goes under both names. Both names were needed to convey the full meaning I had intended. ... perhaps I should just wander off for a fistful of aspirin and take my 'touchy, touchy' suit off. Its been a rather heated day for all of us 'round here.