miss california appears even dumber than first believed

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
There are those that need help, temporarily & permanently. Not a problem. Fire the 90% lazy bastiches on it now & we're ok.

Systems were in place to help them. Private, religious & governmental (state). LBJ screwed that up.
 

valkyrie

Well-Known Member
There are those that need help, temporarily & permanently. Not a problem. Fire the 90% lazy bastiches on it now & we're ok.

Systems were in place to help them. Private, religious & governmental (state). LBJ screwed that up.
How did LBJ screw up welfare?
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
Val,
Since you weren't alive at the time.
Since you don't know history.
Why is it incumbent upon Gonz
to explain it to ya?

Like a three year old
Why Why Why
Except answering a three year olds questions
has utility and pays future dividends for the child
and the parent. In this case ‘not so much’.
I am familiar with the tactic you seek to employ
and call balderdash!

Hush up Minky yer justa limp wristed
bleeding heart ivory tower commie-Lib.
 

valkyrie

Well-Known Member
See "Great Society".
OK.
"Two main goals of the Great Society social reforms were the elimination of poverty and racial injustice. New major spending programs that addressed education, medical care, urban problems, and transportation were launched during this period."

"Some Great Society proposals were stalled initiatives from John F. Kennedy's New Frontier. Johnson's success depended on his persuasive skills, coupled with the Democratic landslide in the 1964 election that brought in many new liberals to Congress. Anti-war Democrats complained that spending on the Vietnam War choked off the Great Society. While some of the programs have been eliminated or had their funding reduced, many of them, including Medicare, Medicaid, and federal education funding, continue to the present. The Great Society's programs expanded under the administrations of Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford."

Is it the spending of federal dollars on these programs that you are opposed to? Or the programs themselves?
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
I'm opposed to the federal government spending anything that is not expressly mandated to it by the Constitution.

The programs, if needed, can be paid for by the communities that claim to need them. Preferably by religous or private organizations. Americans are a generous bunch.
 

Frodo

Member
Is it the spending of federal dollars on these programs that you are opposed to? Or the programs themselves?

It was like giving a life time supply of MadDog 20/20 to a wino. Did you help him by doing that? NO. Did it benefit society in anyway? NO. Does he think you are the best person in the world and ready to vote for you? YES.
 

valkyrie

Well-Known Member
I'm opposed to the federal government spending anything that is not expressly mandated to it by the Constitution.

The programs, if needed, can be paid for by the communities that claim to need them. Preferably by religous or private organizations. Americans are a generous bunch.
Well hell... that works for me, because I don't tithe. :D

However, I do volunteer my time every now and then.

So I understand the life-long welfare problem... and I agree. That's not beneficial, to anyone.

Do you think that education benefits everyone and that it should be paid for through funding by the public?
 

valkyrie

Well-Known Member
It was like giving a life time supply of MadDog 20/20 to a wino. Did you help him by doing that? NO. Did it benefit society in anyway? NO. Does he think you are the best person in the world and ready to vote for you? YES.
Nah... winos don't vote. That's a proven fact.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Do you think that education benefits everyone and that it should be paid for through funding by the public?

It benefits most everyone. It should not be paid for nor in any way controlled by the federal government. State, county and/or community taxes...not federal.
 
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