The press is starting to wake up and grow some balls

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
The One's college thesis is about to surface
and it is gonna be another kick in the balls for him.

“… the Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.”

Rush mentioned it today, next week it will hit them in the face
Obviously he doesn't understand jack about the Constitution and the American way of life. I guess maybe its the hyphenated-american way to socialism.

How can he claim to be a COTUS scholar? He is a subversionist at best.



Can't wait to read this document.
 

Cerise

Well-Known Member
Is this the same thesis that he couldn't find so he couldn't release it?

Maybe that means his BC will be soon to follow. :brow:
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
how about Now :eyemouth:
Yes, lame duck president by 2009.9


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spike

New Member
At this rate we won't have too wait for the resounding defeat
the Dems will inflict on themselves in 2010
Opinion has turned and they will abandoned the rat
that got them into this long before the election.
Americans won’t tolerate this and will overcome!

Americans wouldn't tolerate Bush and already overcame! Resounding defeat for the Reps in the past two elections. :laugh:

See your statement is wishfull thinking. Mine actually happened. ;)
 

chcr

Too cute for words
The funniest part of all this posturing between Fox News and the White House is how everyone pretends that Rupert Murdoch wouldn't fire every single self-styled conservative pundit and replace them with (again, self-styled) liberals if he thought for a second that it would be profitable. Familiar with the concept of bread and circuses?
 

jimpeel

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Oh, you stated it like a fact. Not a guess.

Just common sense. When one sees a certain aspect of society being treated a certain way there is a willingness on the part of others to avoid the same thing happening to them.

Obama is not controlling the press. Bush certianly made more of an effort in that area.

Funny you should contend that as one of Obama's top insiders not only disagrees with you but brags that that is exactly what he did during the campaign.

I gave links, reprinted the story, and gave a link to the video HERE of her saying so in her own words and in her own voice.

You also contend that Bush did the same thing and even more so. Can you show me proof of that contention using legitimate news sources, citations, and links? I did. Do you have any video of any Bush Administration officials bragging that Bush controlled the press and that he did not release "anything that we didn't absolutely control"?

No, actually if you read the article you'll see the vast differences.

Why? I didn't bring Nixon into the mix. Paul did that in POST #4. Let him read it.

My contention is that the press sees the writing on the wall and they know that they could just as easily become one of Obama's targets.
 

jimpeel

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He is the president. Elected in a landslide.

If that was a "landslide" then I guess Reagan's election was a landslide caused by a tsunami created by an earthquake which was set off by a comet striking the Earth.
 

jimpeel

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No, it's a sign that there is something wrong with Fox.

Then why didn't Bush do the same thing to the opposition press -- CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Univision, et al -- when he was president? He never refused an interview on any of those stations nor did he forbid any of his minions from doing so either.

He also never went on five Sunday shows in one morning specifically eschewing only one, that one being the only one that is in opposition to his policies.

Got any links to where it was widely reported that he had done so?
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
Yeah its turning. Obamas attempts to control the message is offending to most every American. People have every right to question, and the ability to ask those questions. Obama has made every effort to keep that from happening and people do not like it.

People are discovering they do not trust POTUS and his commie admin.

If the people, as individuals, have the right to petition their government for redress of grievances then the constitutionally mandated press should have no less of a right to do the same. Everyone can see that but Obama and those willing to defend his actions.
 

spike

New Member
Just common sense. When one sees a certain aspect of society being treated a certain way there is a willingness on the part of others to avoid the same thing happening to them.

No, it was a guess. Speculation presented as fact.


Funny you should contend that as one of Obama's top insiders not only disagrees with you but brags that that is exactly what he did during the campaign.

Nope, they controlled their message. That is different than controlling the press. Don't make up shit.

You also contend that Bush did the same thing and even more so. Can you show me proof of that contention using legitimate news sources, citations, and links? I did.

You gave a link to the campaign controlling their message, not the media. As said before several times every politician, business, celebrity, and anyone else with PR needs tries to control their message.

Do you have any video of any Bush Administration officials bragging that Bush controlled the press and that he did not release "anything that we didn't absolutely control"?

Here's a partial list of Bush media control.

My contention is that the press sees the writing on the wall and they know that they could just as easily become one of Obama's targets.

That is something that you made up.

You mean a target like when the Bush administration attacked NBC?
 

spike

New Member
Then why didn't Bush do the same thing to the opposition press -- CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Univision, et al -- when he was president? He never refused an interview on any of those stations nor did he forbid any of his minions from doing so either.

He also never went on five Sunday shows in one morning specifically eschewing only one, that one being the only one that is in opposition to his policies.

Got any links to where it was widely reported that he had done so?

I never said he did the exact same thing. Obama is refusing to deal with Fox because they are a propaganda machine masquerading as a news outlet. Bush refused to be interviewed by the NYT.

The point here is that Bush did much more insidious things regarding the news.

With hypocrisy that pervasive, who could ever hope to take note of all of it? Still, the complaints from America’s Right — and especially former Bush officials — that the Obama administration is attempting to “control the media,” all because the White House criticizes Fox News, is in a class of hypocrisy all by itself. That those petulant complaints are being amplified by a virtually unanimous press corps — “it’s Nixonian!” is their leading group-think cliché — makes it all the more intolerable.

John Cole itemizes just some of the measures adopted by the Bush White House to manipulate, control, punish and bully the very few media outlets which were ever hostile to it — each of those Bush measures, standing alone, is infinitely more invasive and threatening than the mild and perfectly appropriate criticisms of Fox coming from the Obama White House. Indeed, the Bush White House did exactly the same thing with NBC as the Obama White House is doing with Fox, and virtually all of the media stars who today are so righteously lamenting the “attacks on Fox” said nothing. Worse, the very same Bush official who this week said it was “like what dictators do” for the Obama White House to criticize Fox — Dana Perino — herself stood at the White House podium a mere two years ago and did exactly that to NBC News.

But the Bush administration did far worse to media outlets than merely criticize them. They explicitly threatened to prosecute New York Times journalists — to criminally prosecute them — for reporting on Bush’s illegal spying program aimed at American citizens. They imprisoned numerous foreign journalists covering their various wars. The administration’s obsessive and unprecedented secrecy — Dick Cheney refused to disclose even the most basic information about his whereabouts, his meetings, or even the number of staff members he had — was the ultimate form of media control. And what was the Pentagon’s embedding process other than an attempt to control media coverage and ensure favorable reporting? One will search in vain for much media protests about any of that.

But it was the Bush Pentagon’s “military analyst”/domestic propaganda program that was, far and away, the most egregious case in a long, long time of a White House attempting to control media content and political coverage in the United States. [...]

Whatever else is true, Fox has taken on a political role that is very rare, at least in modern times, for a large American news organization. Its news coverage is not merely biased or opinionated; there’d be nothing unusual about that. Instead, it is a major participant — the leading participant — in organizing, promoting and fueling protests, including street protests, against the government. Fox has undertaken a role typically played by media outlets in, say, Venezuela or various unstable, under-developed countries — sponsoring rather than reporting on protests against the government — and it is difficult to recall any recent example that is similar.

He's right, it sure is hypocritical to bitch when your guy actually did egregious things with the media and Obama simply doesn' want to deal with a propaganda outlet.

You don't have a leg to stand on here.
 

spike

New Member
If the people, as individuals, have the right to petition their government for redress of grievances then the constitutionally mandated press should have no less of a right to do the same. Everyone can see that but Obama and those willing to defend his actions.

Let them petition the government for redress of grievances. Who gives a shit?

Nobody is stopping them from petitioning.
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
Peggy Noonan? Well if she says so then it must be true. :laugh:

She is one of the top political writers in the country. Her opinion holds sway.

You made that up.

He is still singing the now oldie but moldy tune about how he inherited everything and nothing is his fault.

Actually, mentioning the bad press doesn't take much time away from leading the nation.

That depends on where he is leading it. Right now, it appears that he is the drum major for the parade marching us over the cliff of socialism/Marxism/fascism.
 
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