Hate when that happens

Discussion in 'The Real World' started by SouthernN'Proud, Nov 25, 2005.

  1. SouthernN'Proud

    SouthernN'Proud Southern Discomfort

    from tonguetied.us

    San Fran's resident atheist muckracker Michael Newdow has a new target in his campaign to remove all vestiges of the almighty from public view -- the phrase "In God we Trust" on American coins and currency, reports Fox News.

    Newdow has filed a lawsuit in federal court claiming that the language violates the rights of atheists.

    "I'm a minister of the First Amendmist Church of True Science and I can't raise funds or anything else because all the coins say that we believe in God, and that's completely against our principals," he said.

    "In God We Trust" is America's official motto, first appearing on a two-cent coin in 1864. In 1955, Congress mandated that the phrase appear on all paper money.


    So. The athiest shit stirrer who tried to get "under God" removed from the pledge is all atwitter because "in God We Trust" interferes with his fundraising.


    Maybe he'll go away now. I'll buy the one way plane ticket. With money.
  2. Gonz

    Gonz molṑn labé Staff Member

    I wish somebody would tell him the other part.

    (all others pay cash) ;)
  3. chcr

    chcr Too cute for words

    But, it's the cash that says... Oh, never mind. ;)

    Re the pledge, it wasn't there originally, it was added in the fifties. Take it back out, IMO. Never happen though. The non-existant christian theocracy won't let it.
  4. Professur

    Professur Well-Known Member

    Would you rather have "in the President, we trust"? Perhaps, "In the Federal Reserve, we trust"?
  5. Gonz

    Gonz molṑn labé Staff Member

    In the Federal Reserve, we trust...has a certain ring to it.

    Now that Alan Greenspan is gone, maybe not.
  6. chcr

    chcr Too cute for words

    In all honesty, I trust in either one of those more than the other. :shrug:

    My real question is: Does this guy want people to stop paying him since the money offends him so much.
  7. SouthernN'Proud

    SouthernN'Proud Southern Discomfort

    No, he wants the money. He just wants the entire United States mint to change to suit his whim.
  8. Inkara1

    Inkara1 Well-Known Member

  9. Gato_Solo

    Gato_Solo Out-freaking-standing OTC member

    The history of the phrase "In God We Trust" is much older than the 1950's. Just FYI...;)
  10. chcr

    chcr Too cute for words

    Quite so. "Under god" in the pledge was added in the 50s. I really couldn't care less either way, but my personal opinion is that "In God We Trust' has always been on the money (hasn't it?) so leave it alone. "Under God" was added to the pledge for a bad reason (Joe McCarthy) and we should put it back the way it was.
  11. Gato_Solo

    Gato_Solo Out-freaking-standing OTC member

    One question that I always ask in just these types of situations...

    If you don't believe in God, then how could you be offended?
  12. SouthernN'Proud

    SouthernN'Proud Southern Discomfort

    Always wondered that too, although I suppose uttering it does by definition place some credence in the notion.

    I no longer say the pledge anyway. Personal reasons. I read the history of its authorship, and stopped that same day.
  13. Gato_Solo

    Gato_Solo Out-freaking-standing OTC member

    I ain't talking the pledge in particular. I'm talking any reference to God, period.
  14. chcr

    chcr Too cute for words

    I'm not. I'm simply tired of listening to all the whiners on both sides. Simple answer, leave it on the money because it has always been there and remove it from the pledge because it hasn't. Same logic applies to both. Nobody really wins, nobody really loses. Of course, nobody will go for it either. :rolleyes:

    The only thing about religion that offends me is when someone tries to either shove it down my throat or argue that theirs is more valid than anyone else's. Of course you think yours is more valid, Why wouldn't you? You don't have to tell me about it. (note that i'm using the figurative you rather than the personal)
  15. Gato_Solo

    Gato_Solo Out-freaking-standing OTC member

    Of course you realize I was using the figurative you as well...
  16. chcr

    chcr Too cute for words

    Sure, just in a pissy mood today. ;)
  17. Gonz

    Gonz molṑn labé Staff Member

    Today? :lol2:
  18. freako104

    freako104 Well-Known Member

    The money has always had it, it should be allowed to stay. Also it should be noted that there is a Pagan symbol on the back of a one dollar bill. Strange how little people complain about that one
  19. flavio

    flavio Banned

    Seems to be some evidence the "God" in "In God We Trust" was meant to be a pagan one as well. Let this cat out of the bag and it will be the religous right demanding both be removed.
  20. Winky

    Winky Well-Known Member

    Yeah Freaky-toes them all seeing eyes
    will git cha everytime

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