New film raises fears of Muslim outrage

[ResearchMonkey]

[Spike Think] In your post, Hitler say nothing about mass murder. [/Spike Think] [Shower, scrub, delouse]

But much like MacBeth, the serpant beneath the flower.

"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things."

Adolf Hitler, Night of 11th-12th July, 1941



(mee thinks its time read macbeth again, been thinking it about it alot lately)

 

[Gato_Solo]

I didn't tie it to religion, Hitler did.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord"

And since when was Hitler acting on the behalf or religious leaders (imams in Islam)?

By ignoring this fact you are proving yourself stupendously foolish.

Ahh. A personal attack. Nice to see you are still ignorant...

You might want to notice that the Turks killed multiple religions as well. I wonder if you had a point?

Just clarifying that the Nazi's had no scruples...unlike most religions that adhere to Christianity.

Oh and would you mind pointing out the innuendo? I thought I was pretty blatant.

When you associated Nazism with religion.

BTW...

Ignorance is lack of knowledge, and is not an insult. Foolish is an inability to learn, and thus is an insult. Please educate yourself on English comprehension before you resort to another attack, or before you go claiming a personal attack.

 

[spike]

And since when was Hitler acting on the behalf or religious leaders (imams in Islam)?

I don't remember claiming he was acting on behalf of religious leaders.

This is interesting though.

On April 20, 1939, Archbishop Orsenigo celebrated Hitler's birthday. The celebrations, initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) became a tradition. Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send "warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany" and added with "fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars."

This devastating account of the ecclesiastical career of Eugenio Pacelli (1876-1958), who became Pope Pius XII in 1939, is all the more powerful because British historian John Cornwell maintains throughout a measured though strongly critical tone. After World War II, murmurs of Pacelli's callous indifference to the plight of Europe's Jews began to be heard. A noted commentator on Catholic issues, Cornwell began research for this book believing that "if his full story were told, Pius XII's pontificate would be exonerated." Instead, he emerged from the Vatican archives in a state of "moral shock," concluding that Pacelli displayed anti-Semitic tendencies early on and that his drive to promote papal absolutism inexorably led him to collaboration with fascist leaders. Cornwell convincingly depicts Cardinal Secretary of State Pacelli pursuing Vatican diplomatic goals that crippled Germany's large Catholic political party, which might otherwise have stymied Hitler's worst excesses. The author's condemnation has special force because he portrays the admittedly eccentric Pacelli not as a monster but as a symptom of a historic wrong turn in the Catholic Church. He meticulously builds his case for the painful conclusion that "Pacelli's failure to respond to the enormity of the Holocaust was more than a personal failure, it was a failure of the papal office itself and the prevailing culture of Catholicism

Ahh. A personal attack. Nice to see you are still ignorant...

Your personal attack came first yet again. Nice to see you are still foolish.

Just clarifying that the Nazi's had no scruples...unlike most religions that adhere to Christianity.

That's right the Nazis had no scruples yet were christian... most muslims have scruples.

When you associated Nazism with religion.

Hitler did that.

BTW...

Ignorance is lack of knowledge, and is not an insult. Foolish is an inability to learn, and thus is an insult.

An inability to learn would be no fault of your own and thus not an insult. Accusing someone of being ignorant while you are in denial of the facts would be an insult.

Please educate yourself on English comprehension before you resort to another attack, or before you go claiming a personal attack.

Please educate yourself in common sense and the facts of the discussion before you initiate another personal attack

 

[2minkey]

You seem to not realize that the Ottoman Turks were a theocrical government which allowed Christians and Jews to exist under the Dhimmi system. That same government then prosecuted a systematic extermination program against only the Christian and Jewish Armenians.

Here is a pretty good writeup on this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

you seem not to realize that the movement this entire thing eventuated in was toward a secular nationalism in turkey that had little to do with islam.

US troops killed several hundred thousand filipinos at the beginning of the 20th century. oopsie! america isn't a christian nation, now is it?

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

hmmm maybe the obvious ideological similarities at the fringes?

like, for instance, ahmadinefuckfacejad wants to hang any homos he catches in iran. kinda like what someoen like SnP but a little crazier would do here.

hey as long as yer fine with being chattel, it's cool.

I've never advocated hanging anyone, much less faggots.

And thank you for making my primary point...the first post I had in this interesting thread. Apparantly

ahmadinefuckfacejad

who by your own admission would

hang any homos he catches in iran

must be a follower of that religion of peace.

 

[2minkey]

yep, exactly as much as hitler was catholic.

 

[Cerise]

This is interesting though.

This is, too.

"I am convinced that the Nazis were all possessed. All you have to do is think about what Hitler - and Stalin did. Almost certainly they were possessed by the Devil.

"You can tell by their behaviour and their actions, from the horrors they committed and the atrocities that were committed on their orders. That's why we need to defend society from demons."

According to secret Vatican documents recently released wartime pontiff Pope Pius XII attempted a "long distance" exorcism of Hitler which failed to have any effect. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...tml?in_article_id=402602&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

 

[2minkey]

and i'm sure somewere there's islamic fuckers disclaiming the whole lot of islamic extremists.

yeah, i'm real sure of it.

in fact, one could say that i've met many of them personally and listened to them say things like "bin ladin is a disgrace and no muslim."

yep.

 

[chcr]

and i'm sure somewere there's islamic fuckers disclaiming the whole lot of islamic extremists.

yeah, i'm real sure of it.

in fact, one could say that i've met many of them personally and listened to them say things like "bin ladin is a disgrace and no muslim."

yep.

*fingers in ears*

la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la...

 

[jimpeel]

Hey the Nazis prosecuted a systematic extermination program as well.

Yay! We're on the same page.

They didn't do so as a religious edict as the Ottoman Turks did. There were no Nazis running around screaming "Yahweh hu akbar!" as they slaughtered Jews.

 

[jimpeel]

you seem not to realize that the movement this entire thing eventuated in was toward a secular nationalism in turkey that had little to do with islam.

US troops killed several hundred thousand filipinos at the beginning of the 20th century. oopsie! america isn't a christian nation, now is it?

The Ottoman Turks killed in the name of religion. They killed all who were not of their faith.

Philipinos are Christians and the Philipines is a Christian nation. So where are you trying to go with that lame argument?

 

[Gato_Solo]

*fingers in ears*

la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la...

I didn't know you were a member of the mainstream media?

 

[Gato_Solo]

yep, exactly as much as hitler was catholic.

Then why the obsession with the Norse gods?

 

[spike]

They didn't do so as a religious edict as the Ottoman Turks did.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord"

 

[Gato_Solo]

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord"

Once again...which religion was he representing?

 

[Cerise]

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord"

That sentiment sounds alot like:

Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah[] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Did Hitler read the Koran? Or does Iminajihad aspire to be Hitler?

 

[2minkey]

The Ottoman Turks killed in the name of religion. They killed all who were not of their faith.

And this means....?

Philipinos are Christians and the Philipines is a Christian nation.

OMG christians even kill their own kind! They must be worse than anybody!

 

[2minkey]

Did Hitler read the Koran? Or does Iminajihad aspire to be Hitler?

again, there are lots of similarities at the fringes.

 

[2minkey]

Then why the obsession with the Norse gods?

because in addition to various claims to catholicism, and retractions, apparently, hitler was a fucking nutcase grasping at any straw possible?

 

[Gato_Solo]

because in addition to various claims to catholicism, and retractions, apparently, hitler was a fucking nutcase grasping at any straw possible?

Not according to one member here, though, who claims otherwise.

BTW...Every religion kills their own members more than outsiders. No. I won't try to prove my point. One only has to watch the evening news to see that little factoid.