Socialized healthcare care in action.

[jimpeel]

If any of that were actually true. But no, just BS rhetoric.

Show me where that is mere rhetoric. Prove the lie.

 

[spike]

Jim, everyone of them is twisted rhetoric.

Who stood by and allowed genocide in Rwanda? That was only the liberals demanding we do nothing?

Does that mean the blame is all on the conservatives for Darfur?

Who stands against the Constitution?

Remember Bush's rant that went something like this:

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

No wonder we don't care about warrantless searches, habeas corpus, or torture.

No instead of me disproving your statements. Why don't you take some responsibility and prove the things you say.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

gawd you're a lazy panzy.

If you diagree with his post, then you don't know where you politically affiliate yoozself.

...if not, the burden falls on you.

 

[spike]

gawd you're a lazy panzy.

If you diagree with his post, then you don't know where you politically affiliate yoozself.

...if not, the burden falls on you.

Republicans are orphan rapists. The burden falls on you to disprove it.

Actually it's lazy to make statements that you can't back up.

Thanks for the trolling childish insults tho'. Are you trying to get banned?

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Republicans are orphan rapists. The burden falls on you to disprove it.

Gosh Wally, I haven't heard of that long pending social debate, oh please tell me more about it, the Beaver want to know!!!

Actually it's lazy to make statements that you can't back up.

So whats your specific point?

Thanks for the trolling childish insults tho'. Are you trying to get banned?

Aw Geez Wally, would ya', could ya', will ya'

 

[spike]

So whats your specific point?

Point was that Jim shouldn't make claims that he can't back up and just expect others to disprove them. Burden should fall on the one making the claims.

Thought that was pretty clear before. But then you were just trolling right Beav?

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Uh, I don't think he needs to, those are all common cuases of the left.

But I'm sure you would be glad if he spent all day wasting HIS time to prove something everyone but you knows.

His time is valuable, what he affords us here I perfer to see him use to slap your happy ass into the corner, time and time again.

 

[2minkey]

gee wally, who will protect us from the EVILDOERS?

 

[spike]

Uh, I don't think he needs to, those are all common cuases of the left.

But I'm sure you would be glad if he spent all day wasting HIS time to prove something everyone but you knows.

Nope, it's all rhetoric BS. So he needs to back up his words if he wants to be taken seriously.

His time is valuable, what he affords us here I perfer to see him use to slap your happy ass into the corner, time and time again.

Point out once. No?

Just like every other time I say that you won't though. Because you're just trolling.

Find an example of me insulting someone who didn't insult me yet?

See you just run off or troll more when you're confronted on your bullshit.

Happy trolling.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Nope, it's all rhetoric BS. So he needs to back up his words if he wants to be taken seriously.



Point out once. No?

Just like every other time I say that you won't though. Because you're just trolling.

See you just run off or troll more when you're confronted on your bullshit.

Happy trolling.

Nope, this is just more of your rhetoric, lies fantasy never contributing, just posting garbage and nit-picking expecting the everyone to repect you for the widoms you grace us with.

Find an example of me insulting someone who didn't insult me yet?

Not that its ^^^ true, but..

..Happens alot doesn't it? .....ever wonder why?

 

[Gonz]

I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper

Read the article. He doesn't name sources. He's clearly anti-Bush. The mainstream media has been silent. Biased crap, at best.

 

[jimpeel]

Jim, everyone of them is twisted rhetoric.

Who stood by and allowed genocide in Rwanda? That was only the liberals demanding we do nothing?

The Clinton administration; and Clinton issued a blanket apology to all Rwandans for his lack of action.

Does that mean the blame is all on the conservatives for Darfur?

I believe that the current administration is complicit in the activities in Darfur, but those activities were also going on during the prior administration. The only ones trying to do anything are White missionaries who are going over there and buying people out of slavery. When the head of a Black group asked to speak at the Million Man March about the horrors of Darfur he was rejected by Louis Farrakahn.

Who stands against the Constitution?

Leftists, Communists, Marxists, and Socialists.

Remember Bush's rant that went something like this:

Source, please.

No wonder we don't care about warrantless searches, habeas corpus, or torture.

I never said any of that. I have stated here that I am against the U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T.A.C.T.

No instead of me disproving your statements. Why don't you take some responsibility and prove the things you say.

I post links to every story I post.

 

[jimpeel]

Read the article. He doesn't name sources. He's clearly anti-Bush. The mainstream media has been silent. Biased crap, at best.

Read the sources repeating this so-called "quote"

• capitolhillblue.com
• rense.com
• prisonplanet.com
• homelandstupidity.com
• infowars.com
• dissidentvoice.org

All of these are nutjob sites Right and Left. There is not one single legitimate news source or MSM outlet that has reported anything on what could possibly be one of the most damning quotes in American history.

 

[spike]

I believe that the current administration is complicit in the activities in Darfur, but those activities were also going on during the prior administration.

So then it would be Democrats and Republicans both not taking action on genocide right? Also probably many from both sides of the spectrum that would have liked us to take action right? I know I would.

Leftists, Communists, Marxists, and Socialists.

And Rightists. Conservatives, and NeoCons.

I never said any of that. I have stated here that I am against the U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T.A.C.T.

Good to hear.

I post links to every story I post.

Ok, but you provided no basis for your claims above.

 

[jimpeel]

Ok, but you provided no basis for your claims above.

As I said, I have provided links to every STORY I have posted. Those were contentions, not stories.

If you disagree with the contentions, simply prove them wrong.

You have posted fallacious claims as well but I at least did the legwork to show that the story upon which those contentions were based were all nutjob sites.

 

[spike]

As I said, I have provided links to every STORY I have posted. Those were contentions, not stories.

If you disagree with the contentions, simply prove them wrong.

They're rhetoric. I've proven a few false already. You should back up your claims.

You have posted fallacious claims as well but I at least did the legwork to show that the story upon which those contentions were based were all nutjob sites.

Oh yeah, you proved they were nutjobs.

Ok Jim. We've taken care of a couple, let's move on to another.

How does the left "stand against the religious spirit of mankind"?

Do you think nobody on the left is religious? The truth is most of them are. If you really don't believe that I'll be glad to link you to some demographics.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

While there is no doubt that the Dem-base is chock-full of belivers, the loudest is the minority with some of the most vile of the species. The fringe has far more push and pull in the democratic party then the common citizen.

Appeasment and acceptance of 'progressive' 'liberal' crap is what has reduced a respectable party to a filth.

 

[jimpeel]

How does the left "stand against the religious spirit of mankind"?

Do you think nobody on the left is religious? The truth is most of them are. If you really don't believe that I'll be glad to link you to some demographics.

I'll make it easy for you. Show me just one right wing activist that is trying to have Christmas removed as a holiday; that is trying to have "In God we trust" removed from our money; that is trying to remove the word "God" from the Pledge of Allegiance.

I'll start with a left wing example: Michael Newdow.

Your turn.

I await your example.

 

[spike]

I'm sure if I looked I could find a right wing atheist aginst religious stuff easy enough.

The problem is that once again you're trying to make a generalization of millions based on a singel example. That's just faulty logic Jim.

Another fault is that you want to equate removing "In God We Trust" from money with "against the religious spirit of mankind". Not even close to the same thing.

Your argument is full of holes. So yes, you did make it easy for me.

 

[jimpeel]

The original post to which I was responding said:

Ideally, Left, stands for mankind, and hopefully the prosperity of all....

The Left is made up of Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Socialists.

In my post I stated the following, taken individually:

Then why do they espouse the elimination of mankind's most innocent creatures for convenience?

Is Abortion, or is it not, one of the primary agendas of the Left and is it, or is it not, one of the planks of the Democrat party platform?

Why do they stand against the corporations which bring prosperity to all?

Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Socialists are anti business. Is not the Democrat party anti-business? Do they not espouse higher taxes on "big" businesses? Is it not they who coined the terms "Big Oil", "Big Tobacco", etc.? Is it not the Democrat party which seeks to bring down those businesses and others?

Why do they wish to take the prosperity from those who create prosperity and give it to those who never create anything but more bastard children?

Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Socialists are for the redistribution of wealth. Their mantra is "From each according to his ability. To each according to his need." Is that not what the social welfare state is? Is that not what comprises the welfare program in America? Is welfare not a plank in the Democrat platform? Was not the "Great Society" a Democrat program signed off by a Democrat president?

Why did they stand by and allow the slaughter of nearly one million Africans in Rwanda?

America, under a Democrat administration, ignored the murder of nearly one million people. The U.N., in standard cowardly fashion, pulled its peacekeeping forces out of Rwanda.

That was a nice ploy of yours to bring up Darfur WHICH IS IN SUDAN in a classic "Well they did it too" move. Rwanda is, was, and will ever be a Democrat scandal. Live with it.

READ THIS

In reality the United States did much more than fail to send troops. It led a successful effort to remove most of the UN peacekeepers who were already in Rwanda. It aggressively worked to block the subsequent authorization of UN reinforcements. It refused to use its technology to jam radio broadcasts that were a crucial instrument in the coordination and perpetuation of the genocide. And even as, on average, 8,000 Rwandans were being butchered each day, U.S. officials shunned the term "genocide," for fear of being obliged to act. The United States in fact did virtually nothing "to try to limit what occurred." Indeed, staying out of Rwanda was an explicit U.S. policy objective.

Why do they wish to tear this country down through multiculturalism and political correctness; and allow those who have no intention of assimilating into America to come here illegally?

Is political correctness not a Leftist agenda? Is multicultuarism not a plank in the Democrat platform? Is not the immigration debacle a platform of the Left? Did, or did not, the Democrats try to get illegals registered to vote under Clinton? Was, or was not, the Motor Votor bill a Democrat invention to allow the registration of illegals to vote?

Why do they stand arm in arm with those who break our laws as the very first act upon entry into this country?

Has the Democrat party not stood for illegal immigration? Do they not try to protect these people from detainment and deportation? Are the organizations MECHA, AZTLAN, and La Raza not left wing organizations to which many Democrat legislators and politicians hold membership?

Why do they stand against the liberation of an oppressed people -- part of your mankind -- by trying to take away the only thing bringing them that freedom; American soldiers?

Nearly the entire Democrat party, the party of the Left, stands against the war. With few exceptions, the Republican party stands with the President and his desire to see the Iraqi people free to self govern without a strongman dictator at the helm.

Why do they stand against the religious spirit of mankind?

Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Socialists stand against religion. One of the first tenets of Communism is the destruction of religion as it destroys the belief that all things come from the state.

Why do they stand against the most important document ever penned by mankind -- The Constitution of the United States?

The Democrats and Leftists have done more to destroy the Constitution than any other single entity.

It was the Democrats who came up with the Great Society, the Welfare state, the New Deal, "Social" Security.

It was the Democrats who stood against the 1964 Civil Rights Act and it was Democrats who stood in the schoolhouse doors and prevented Blacks from entering. It was Democrats who had to have the threat of military action brought to bear against them for them to allow integration.

Standing for mankind? Yeah. Right.