Virtually all Iraq's utilities below pre invasion levels

Gato_Solo

Out-freaking-standing OTC member
flavio said:
Limited? Who makes the budget for Iraq and requests the funding?

Yes. Limited. In case you didn't realize, Congress holds the purse strings. The President can veto spending, but only Congress can authorize such expenditures.
 

highwayman

New Member
flavio said:
Why would that be necessary?

Actualy you brought it up...

flavio said:
Actually most Iraqis think things are worse now than before Georgie got involved.

It amazes me that a citizen of America has no clue on how the government works, if you did you would not make a statement like this...

flavio said:
Limited? Who makes the budget for Iraq and requests the funding?

And...

flavio said:
Actually most Iraqis think things are worse now than before Georgie got involved. That's 1.2 trillion dollars of your taxes at work.

Bet you don't know the three arms of government of the USA....
 

flavio

Banned
Gonz said:
That is probably the most idiotic thing I've tried to ignore you saying.
Do you have any proof to the contrary?

Gato said:
Yes. Limited. In case you didn't realize, Congress holds the purse strings. The President can veto spending, but only Congress can authorize such expenditures.
Since he's making the budgets and requests the amount of money primarily stems from him. That would make "quite powerful" more accurate in the situation than "quite limited".

highwayman said:
Actualy you brought it up...
I brought up naming individuals? I thought you did.
highwayman said:
It amazes me that a citizen of America has no clue on how the government works, if you did you would not make a statement like this...
I don't suppose you'll want to explain why you would say that would you?


highwayman said:
Quite powerful is more accurate than quite limited.

highwayman said:
Bet you don't know the three arms of government of the USA....
Sure do. Bet you don't know how to relate your statement to the quote you cited....
 

Gato_Solo

Out-freaking-standing OTC member
flavio said:
Since he's making the budgets and requests the amount of money primarily stems from him. That would make "quite powerful" more accurate in the situation than "quite limited".

Once again, since this relatively simple concept seems to escape you. Congress makes/creates/sets forth the budget.
 

Gato_Solo

Out-freaking-standing OTC member
Oh, yeah...before I forget...

Minefield cleared with help from local man



TIKRIT, Iraq – Iraqi and coalition Soldiers cleared a previously unknown minefield Feb. 23 near Tikrit thanks to a tip from a local man.

The Soldiers from the 1st Brigade, 4th Iraqi Army Division and the 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division were searching the area for weapons caches when they came across the man and were guided to the minefield.
Thirty anti-personnel mines were unearthed and destroyed at the site, along with two rifles and a large quantity of machine gun ammunition also discovered during the mission.

Iraqi security forces and coalition units receive tips about weapons caches and terrorist activities from Iraqi civilians almost every day. These tips have led to the seizure of hundreds of weapons and have helped take numerous terror suspects off the streets.

Citizens who help their nation by providing these types of tips may qualify for substantial rewards



Iraqi citizen’s tip helps IA, MNB-D Soldiers



BAGHDAD, Iraq – Soldiers from Multi-National Division – Baghdad’s 3rd Battalion, 16th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, responded to an Iraqi citizen’s tip Feb. 23 and found a roadside bomb east of An Najaf.

The shape-charge bomb was encased in Styrofoam and was pointing towards a road.

Iraqi police and an Iraqi Explosive Ordnance Disposal team arrived on the scene.

The team defused the bomb to nullify the threat.

Elsewhere, two Iraqi soldiers were wounded Feb 23 when a terrorist’s mortar shell impacted northwest of Baghdad at approximately 2:30 p.m.

Both Iraqi soldiers were medically evacuated to Multi-National Division – Baghdad’s 10th Combat Support Hospital for treatment.





MND-B Soldiers discover roadside bombs, weapons caches



BAGHDAD, Iraq – Iraqi Security Forces and MND-B Soldiers discovered and destroyed nine roadside bombs and two weapons caches from the evening of Feb. 22 to the morning of the 23. Following the bombing of the Samarra Mosque, the ISF recalled all Soldiers on leave and increased their security measures throughout the Baghdad, an-Najaf, al-Hillah and Karbala areas of operation.

There were 21 peaceful demonstrations throughout the MND-B area.

Despite media reports to the contrary, as of noon Friday there have been 13 attacks on Muslim mosques throughout the MND-B area. Three mosques were damaged. Iraqi government and security forces are assessing the damage.

Based on a local Iraqi national’s tip, MND-B soldiers from 1st Battalion, 87th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, conducted a cordon and search west of Baghdad at around 7:30 p.m. Feb. 22.

The 10th Mtn. Div. Soldiers detained two suspected terrorists and found a weapons cache, which included five RPG launchers, 19 RPG rounds, 15 RPG boosters, 20 mortar rounds, 18 flash bang grenades, three hand grenades, eight anti-tank rounds, ten fuses and seven blasting caps.

Additionally, another weapons cache was found and destroyed by Soldiers from 2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division, southwest of Baghdad at 6:20 p.m. Feb. 22.

This cache consisted of: 80 120mm, eleven 80mm, and 35 60mm mortar rounds, five rockets, two 155mm artillery rounds, one 60mm mortar and two 60mm mortar base plates.

Both caches were destroyed by coalition explosive ordnance disposal teams.





Iraqi Security Forces, Coalition Force Soldiers patrol Baghdad neighborhoods



BAGHDAD, Iraq – The Iraqi army and police have taken the lead for providing security and the protection of holy sites and government infrastructure.

In an effort to provide a safe environment for the citizens of Baghdad, Iraqi Security Forces and Coalition Forces are increasing presence patrols in the city’s neighborhoods today.

The increased patrols come as a response to the recent demonstrations and violence, which erupted in Iraq after the terrorist bombing of the Askariya shrine in Samarra.

The government of Iraq placed a temporary evening curfew, followed by a daytime curfew in Baghdad and Babil provinces. The Iraqi army and police will enforce the curfew in order to provide security for all Iraqis.

The increased presence patrols are scheduled to continue for at least the next 48 hours.

“The attack on the Askariya Mosque is a senseless terrorist act designed to sow the seeds of sectarian violence,” said Maj. Gen. J.D. Thurman, commanding general, MND-B. Iraqi Security Forces and Coalition Forces need the help of the Iraqi people. Iraqis must report all terrorist and criminal activity.”
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
Remember how East Germany was turned over to the west

and imagine what it will be like when north Korea gets returned to south Korea

and when the whole middle east has finally been converted to civilization

and we get everyone in the dark continent to start acting white er I mean civilized...

oh what a wunderful werld it will bee
 

chcr

Too cute for words
Winky said:
Remember how East Germany was turned over to the west

and imagine what it will be like when north Korea gets returned to south Korea

and when the whole middle east has finally been converted to civilization

and we get everyone in the dark continent to start acting white er I mean civilized...

oh what a wunderful werld it will bee
Unfortunately, you and I will have been dead and buried for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years before that all happens.
 

flavio

Banned
Gato_Solo said:
Once again, since this relatively simple concept seems to escape you. Congress makes/creates/sets forth the budget.
The simple fact that's escaping you is that Bush has the primary responsibility for the cost of the war. Keep trying to pass the buck though.
 

highwayman

New Member
flavio said:
The simple fact that's escaping you is that Bush has the primary responsibility for the cost of the war. Keep trying to pass the buck though.

If you think that, then prove it...Post a copy of the check that Bush signed to pay for it...
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Please, people, if you live in the US, read the Constitution. It spells out the limits of government & gives precise directions on how to go about its business.

Article 1 said:
Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it,

that doesn't say the Pres has free reign.
 
The Old Gray Mare said:
WASHINGTON, Feb. 8 — Virtually every measure of the performance of Iraq's...ANYTHING---- ACCORDING TO NYT

Has the Slimes ever printed a good word regarding the liberation of Iraq?


Donald Trump said:
"The New York Times was once a great newspaper, but it's not worth the paper it's printed on anymore. Changes have to be made. The New York Times is now reeling from so many huge mistakes by reporters and management that people are saying it's one of the worst newspapers in America."



Could this be why the Slimes has such a poor outlook on the future?


nyt



...Just ain't what she used to be....

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/0804/081104-nytimes.htm
New York Times' Objectivity Challenged in FTC Complaint

By Jeff Gannon
Talon News
August 11, 2004

A Hofstra law student has filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission against the New York Times alleging the publication's use of the slogan, "All the news that's fit to print" is false advertising and constitutes a deceptive practice. He claims that the Times' use of "push-polling" is a violation of the FTC Act.

Jonathan Stein said he filed the complaint because he believes the NYT has abused its power and abdicated its responsibility to be objective.
 

flavio

Banned
highwayman said:
If you think that, then prove it...Post a copy of the check that Bush signed to pay for it...
Who do you think is primarily responsible for calling for military action and coming up with the war budget exactly?
 

Gato_Solo

Out-freaking-standing OTC member
flavio said:
Who do you think is primarily responsible for calling for military action and coming up with the war budget exactly?

Ahem...already been answered. The Pres can call up troops and wage war only through Congress. That old War Powers Act is a bitch, innit?

Bottom line, which you consistently ignore, is that all money comes through, and is alloted by, Congress. Requests from each agency go to the Finance commitees, and the final budget for all US expenditures goes through Congress for approval. Once Congress votes on, and makes changes to the budget, it is voted on, and then passed to the President, who then signs, or vetoes the budget.
 

flavio

Banned
So you would say Congress is primarily responsible for calling for military action and coming up with the war budget?
 
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