Americans help terrorists

Gonz

Gonz

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Protests are annoying. They are also part of the American guarantees. This however is assistance of the enemy.

Taking their cue from protesters in San Francisco, who shut down that city's financial district last week with a wave of raucous street blockades, marches, and sit-ins, activists in New York—including many from more mainstream groups—are calling for widespread civil disobedience in midtown Manhattan this Thursday. Their aim is to disrupt "business as usual."
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People like should be packed up like sardines, shipped to Iraq and dropped behind enemy lines. Protest from there ya friggin' libbies.
 
Listen to you 'right wingers' your constitutional rights are important only to you, but what about the next guy? Remember the freedom to assembly? Should we cancel that one cuz it doesn't suit you at the moment? Ok, maybe the libs will trade you for your right to bear arms :rolleyes:
 
I think protesting is fine, BUT when its whole purpose is to disrupt business as usual, i think they are followers, not even knowing for what they are protesting. There is such a thing as a repsectful protest, these in particular are a bunch of idiots that are prolly looking for any reason to get the day off work.

"are calling for widespread civil disobedience in midtown Manhattan this Thursday"
these will end up the same ones that will purposefully incite riots in the name of peace. can we say double standard?
 
Well, when we look back at the civil rights era, nobody seems to saying that we all would have been better off without civil disobedience. But I do see your point. They do get out of hand. I couldn't ever imagine doing such a thing, but at the same time, you start taking away rights... Well, you know how the argument goes.
 
no i never said they should have their right takens away. BUT they do not have the RIGHT in any form to purposefully disobey the law. atleast not without repurcussions. Guarenteed friday we'll hear how they were arrested for doing that very thing. then everyone comes out of the woodwork in their defense.
I find it amazing that they believe its their right.
example: hey lets go rob a bank....wrong against the law you go to jail.
example: hey lets go protest the war and while were at it break a few laws... answer should be, WRONG. But then we have the few who say its their right.
sorry i cant see it that way. law is the law
 
*clears throat*

Ahem, may I have your attention please. There sems to be a misunderstanding of the rules. I'sd like to adress that if I may.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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It does not allow stopping commerce.

Thank you for your time & patience :D
 
I just want to clarify that I italicized peaceful. That did not mean it's ok for a bunch of loonies to assemble and do whatever they want.
 
exactly my point q and rest. peaceful is fine. but pre planned civil disobedience is not. i hope with their puplicized (sp) plan here they end up in jail before they have to fire upon them.
 
Like Fav keeps saying, only a few cause trouble for the whole group. I don't care what they do to be honest, its the choice, and people will deal with it. I'm not gonna protest protesters, thats kind of silly.

I don't think they should shut down NYC, I don't agree with that, but if it happens, it happens. That is the price of war!

DON'T ANY OF YOU GUYS PLAY CIVILIZATIONS ?

I really hate when my cities are in disorder, but when you go to war under a democracy that just happens :D
 
Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.

Your right to peaceably assemble ends where it begins to violate my rights to free commerce.

Breaking the law isn't protected by the Constitution. Anyone who believes that (these protestors in question) should act on their beliefs... and end up in jail where they belong.

Taking away rights my ass.
 
Well, by demonstrating, the protesters are exercizing their rights to freedom of assembly and freedom of speech. In a 'democracy,' they have that right. Ok, ok, its not a democracy, its a republic, a representative democracy etc etc... Well, when people don't feel like they are being represented, and they disagree with what their government is doing, they have a right to communicate that to them. IF the demonstration is so big, that it shuts down a city the size of New York, obviously the people aren't being well represented, and they have a right to make that know to their representitives. The representitives then should take notice and evaluate the situation, and whether they are acting on behalf of the people or in their own interest. So clearly, if demonstrations become so large as to shut down cities, people aren't being represented. This is the mechanism to communicate this to our representitives. So, in principle, I don't see how you can be against this, it is their right, and their representatives duty to represent them. You can be assured, for every protester, there are thousands of others that are against this war as well. Therefore, I see nothing wrong with this in principle. Our leaders must respect the will of the people. Or, is that slogan a 'government of the people, by the people, and for the people' just a crock of shit? I think we can all agree that it is not, or at least shouldn't be. Therefore, I support their right to do whatever they want, except when I'm playing Civ! Then it can be annoying. Ok, and now, it is annoying for our leaders, and they must sit up and take notice and address these issues. Ok, you don't agree, not everyone is gonna agree, thats life. There are over 280 million people, its impossible that we can all agree on ANYTHING. When its your turn, when some lib is doing something would disaprove of, YOU have the right to protest against that action as well. Remember that! Its part of life under 'democratic' rule. If you wish to change our form of government to something more authoritarian, then you can supress any demonstration you like, but there are obvious trade offs that will have to be made! You can't have it all, life isn't so simple as that.
 
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