Canada 'can permit gay marriage'
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Fucking wonderful. Like we don't have enough already.
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
Hell, I'm all for it. While yer at it, and since you already got all the Steve-n-Stewarts or Nancy-n-Nicoles up there, do us ignorant intolerant Americans a favor and naturalize 'em too. Just keep 'em. We don't want 'em. That way I don't have to explain why that man is kissing that other man to my kids. The word "gay" can once again be equated with the word "festive" instead of "abnormality". Won't that be nice?
unclehobart
New Member
They also said that priests and religions cannot be forced to carry through with a union against their beliefs. Its still up to the couple to find someone willing to give vows.
unclehobart
New Member
I didn't think it was. I think its all a simple federal benefits issue deep down instead of anything truly spiritual with the devine.
Winky
Well-Known Member
Yes Yes Canadian values at their finest!
Free (low quality) health care for all.
Cradle to grave Govt. handholding.
Not backing the U.S. in wartime.
Open borders policy to terrorists and draft dodgers
And now Homosexual marriage.
What's next?
Keep it up guys you are a great object lesson of what we don’t want to become.
Free (low quality) health care for all.
Cradle to grave Govt. handholding.
Not backing the U.S. in wartime.
Open borders policy to terrorists and draft dodgers
And now Homosexual marriage.
What's next?
Keep it up guys you are a great object lesson of what we don’t want to become.
to Canada
tank girl
New Member
I don't understand why gay marriage, in contemporary society, should be so controversial? It’s absurd.
There isn't a lot of difference between discrimination on the grounds of sexuality from discrimination on the grounds of race, or religion or anything else. So why somebody who is homosexual should be denied the rights of a heterosexual simply because of what is merely a historically ingrained ignorance and homophobia? This entirely the response of people who choose to believe that it is up to them to judge "in the name of god" simply to an ingrained belief that they have the right to judge over others because they possess some sort of theological authority and moral superiority that only serves to masquerade prejudice and limited perceptions and world-views.
It wasn't so long ago that people were claiming that those that were not "white" or "Christian" were immoral and less than human... and it was this belief that helped to justify slavery, colonisation and apartheid simply because people actually believed that they were doing what was the right thing in the eyes of "god", separating the rights of those they deemed "unnatural" with the rights of those "superior". Now to most people, this type of discrimination is not only intolerable, but repulsive... so why should people treat a removal of the long held and pretty much old-fashioned discrimination against homosexuality in what should be a secular decision, in the same way?
I see that to allow gay and lesbian couples to legalise their relationship and have it recognised publicly and have it accepted is looing overdue and I am so relieved that as a country, New Zealand has followed suit and helped to attract attention towards this decision in Canada to. A bill was passed in N.Z here in parliament yesterday, allowing same-sex relationships to be recognised as having the same rights as marriage, yet under the name "civil union"....obviously provoking a ridiculous degree of outrage in the more hypocritical, numb rained, conservatives here that think we should be living out our lives according to their own a selective reading from the bible, which these days has far less relevance to society as a whole than it once might of.
So, like the way we look back at situations in the 20th century such as apartheid, wonder how such thwarted prejudice could exist that separated in law the rights of a group of the population - I think it pays to realise that for many people homosexuality is an inevitable part of life, part of personal identity and no-one should be denied the right to be able to be who they are publicly, to have a life that is not denied the rights of other people simply because they do not correspond with conservative values that tend to fail to acknowledge that like freedom of speech, human rights demand that a tolerance of alternative voices despite your own personal views be held.
Above all, I think it is hypocritical: tolerance and love is after all the underlying teaching of Christianity too - to claim that your own view is right and then try to impose the view on others, and judge others by that view on religious grounds is not only unchristian, but intolerant and selfish .
The idea that homosexuality is criminal is the archaic hangover from a time where racism was customary, and expected too.
There isn't a lot of difference between discrimination on the grounds of sexuality from discrimination on the grounds of race, or religion or anything else. So why somebody who is homosexual should be denied the rights of a heterosexual simply because of what is merely a historically ingrained ignorance and homophobia? This entirely the response of people who choose to believe that it is up to them to judge "in the name of god" simply to an ingrained belief that they have the right to judge over others because they possess some sort of theological authority and moral superiority that only serves to masquerade prejudice and limited perceptions and world-views.
It wasn't so long ago that people were claiming that those that were not "white" or "Christian" were immoral and less than human... and it was this belief that helped to justify slavery, colonisation and apartheid simply because people actually believed that they were doing what was the right thing in the eyes of "god", separating the rights of those they deemed "unnatural" with the rights of those "superior". Now to most people, this type of discrimination is not only intolerable, but repulsive... so why should people treat a removal of the long held and pretty much old-fashioned discrimination against homosexuality in what should be a secular decision, in the same way?
I see that to allow gay and lesbian couples to legalise their relationship and have it recognised publicly and have it accepted is looing overdue and I am so relieved that as a country, New Zealand has followed suit and helped to attract attention towards this decision in Canada to. A bill was passed in N.Z here in parliament yesterday, allowing same-sex relationships to be recognised as having the same rights as marriage, yet under the name "civil union"....obviously provoking a ridiculous degree of outrage in the more hypocritical, numb rained, conservatives here that think we should be living out our lives according to their own a selective reading from the bible, which these days has far less relevance to society as a whole than it once might of.
So, like the way we look back at situations in the 20th century such as apartheid, wonder how such thwarted prejudice could exist that separated in law the rights of a group of the population - I think it pays to realise that for many people homosexuality is an inevitable part of life, part of personal identity and no-one should be denied the right to be able to be who they are publicly, to have a life that is not denied the rights of other people simply because they do not correspond with conservative values that tend to fail to acknowledge that like freedom of speech, human rights demand that a tolerance of alternative voices despite your own personal views be held.
Above all, I think it is hypocritical: tolerance and love is after all the underlying teaching of Christianity too - to claim that your own view is right and then try to impose the view on others, and judge others by that view on religious grounds is not only unchristian, but intolerant and selfish .
The idea that homosexuality is criminal is the archaic hangover from a time where racism was customary, and expected too.
PostCode
Major contributor!
tank girl said:
Because God said so. Plain and simple. Denying the truth in God's word is what's absurd.
Correct. God shows no favortism and finds any such behavior unacceptable. That doesn't mean that a homosexual should be on equal terms. It means the homosexual should be seperated from normal social conditions. Historically ingrained ignorance and homophobia?
No, fact. Jesus Christ. Ignorance of God's word is the problem.
Your mistaken. God judges all equally. God has also told us in the Bible that swearing in his name is a sin that cannot be forgiven. That includes those who judge. In fact God does not condone such behavior at all. If I were to step into a court room and be asked to place my hand on a Bible I would refuse and there is nothing that anyone could do to me to change my mind, because God will judge me for such behavior.
"Judge not lest ye be judged". No place in the Bible does God tells us to judge based on any kind of moral or theological authority. He tells us not to judge!
You know, if you actually read the book you might have a better time here.
God does not discriminate. People do. God is perfect. People are not, nor will they ever be. They will have to face God and Jesus Christ in their own time and pay the price for their ignorance of God's truth.
Those who choose to be selective in their reading of the Bible and fail to see the truth in the word will have to answer to Jesus for those failings. The Bible has relevance, you just choose not to see it. That is your decision though, although it is the wrong one.
Yes it is inevitable. God gave us a free will. No one is telling to be something else here are they? No one is telling me to be some else here either. People make choices. Those choices are based on a free will. It is not part of a person identity, it's a personal problem that needs to be fixed.
To not love is one of the greatest sins before god. However, before God, a sin is a sin. When the Bible tells us to love your neighbor, God and Jesus are not telling us to act in a homosexual way. To be hypocritical of God is to do sin.
You know. I see thoughout this post an underlying hatred of anyone who is a Christian along with a self-righteousness of yourself. That's fine. Your choice is your's. God will send you to your chosen place at the time of judgment. I pray for you.
Thulsa Doom
New Member
Good job canucks! i lift a molsen in your defiance of discrimination.
Winky
Well-Known Member
Yeah and one of your sniper doods holds the worlds record for the longest range kill.