Canada 'can permit gay marriage'
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Winky
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Thulsa Doom said:
OK we know people are born 'of color' (and that’s not a behavior) and now we know that people are born homosexual so when will they begin to stop discriminating against pedophiles and change the constitution er I mean find in the constitution where it's OK to doink them luscious teenagers Yum.
Winky
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You aren't serious
no wait its FreakOh
silly me...
Yup The Canucks are such copy Kats just
what 35 years behind the times?
Judicial activism is like so 60's man.
But I dunno they are weird enough up there if it was put to a proper vote
who knows it might pass. I guess on those long artic winter nights ol' Steve starts to look mighty fine!
no wait its FreakOh
silly me...
Yup The Canucks are such copy Kats just
what 35 years behind the times?
Judicial activism is like so 60's man.
But I dunno they are weird enough up there if it was put to a proper vote
who knows it might pass. I guess on those long artic winter nights ol' Steve starts to look mighty fine!
ResearchMonkey
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freako104 said:Roe V Wade. too late
Didn't know that was in the COTUS, news to me I guess.
tank girl
New Member
WRONG: why? because the truth is rarely PLAIN and NEVER simple....!
actually to me; believing in something as archaic as "god" to explain away every problem in society is absurd. "God" only exists because he was created by man for that very fact.
And the fact is; just because YOU believe it is absurd DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD TOO!
Postcode, I accept your christianity, though I must point out that just because YOU believe in something it does not neccesarily mean that everybody else should...all very well for you to follow your own dogma, but in reality it is one of many constructed safety nets that bind people like you together in unfortunately narrow and discriminatory and one eyed views of the world the way you would like to see it. All i see is a superiority for your point of view. I don't hate christians any more than I believe that you hate homosexuals - I have good friends who are christian, But being agnostic I find christianity a very egocentric and misguided way to follow a faith. I can't respect anybody blind enough to not realise that christianity isn't the only religion, that although there is sufficient proof to show that christ existed - the bible itself was written and re-written BY MEN in order to serve the certain structures in society at the time. Shall I go so far as to call the bible PROPOGANDA and Jesus nothing but a GURU...(albeit a very pervasive one) mightn't I???That is my belief, but I don't really feel the need to think that you should believe that too, I just find it absurd that you just won't even consider things from an open perspective. The bible is full of contradictions and it seems that today all it is used for in situations like this is to appropriate a point of view as being the absolute TRUTH.
Where really, on further examination there is no such thing but a series of questionable and contradictory arguments that should have no priviledge over the other.
Psotcode, theres no need to be so defensive: I am sorry for you that you let your own beliefs cause such an ignorance in you to not even consider the need to look at things from an angle other than one dictated by your so-called conception of "god" and "jesus" that to put it simply, discriminates against homosexuality...not to mention women and many other things: remnants of a far, far gone age.
Blah blah
AMEN...
over-and-out.
*reminds herself not to ge wound up over imbeciles on a RW thread again*oh, BTW did you see the Madame tussouds wax Nativity display with Posh spice as Mary and President bush as one of the three wise men. Fucking hilarious, hows that for brilliance in social satire...
tank girl
New Member
OH and I believe that HOMOSEXUALITY is largely determined at birth, and so pleas explain to me as to how that can be "fixed". It is most definately an inherent part of an Identity and unfortunatly there is no "pill" you can take to make you "straight" because by being "gay" you're "sick".
oh, what... I know....wouldn't the solution be to have a "gay-o-meter" scan with an ultrasound and abort where the blueprint points to "GAY"?
If god disagrees with gay people then tell me WHY did he create them? to suffer eternal hatred and homophobia from the very people that feel they are superior enough to preach let alon understand what "he" (or arguably, "she") meant through his/her word???
to me its only something destined to be appropriated and mis-appropriated forever. oh well, pity.
Saying that Gays don't have the right to be married is just as stupid to me as saying that people with Blue eyes can't.
besides, I can probably guess that there are probably more fuck-ups in heterosexual marriage these days than there would be in committed homosexual relationships. In my opinion, men and women were NEVER really meant to be "married" in the first place: to me its NOT natural: its a retarded piece of patriachal crap (designed to treat women as chattels and to exchange and make babies - which has loooong passed its used by date.
now I've really done it *sigh
oh, what... I know....wouldn't the solution be to have a "gay-o-meter" scan with an ultrasound and abort where the blueprint points to "GAY"?
If god disagrees with gay people then tell me WHY did he create them? to suffer eternal hatred and homophobia from the very people that feel they are superior enough to preach let alon understand what "he" (or arguably, "she") meant through his/her word???
to me its only something destined to be appropriated and mis-appropriated forever. oh well, pity.
Saying that Gays don't have the right to be married is just as stupid to me as saying that people with Blue eyes can't.
besides, I can probably guess that there are probably more fuck-ups in heterosexual marriage these days than there would be in committed homosexual relationships. In my opinion, men and women were NEVER really meant to be "married" in the first place: to me its NOT natural: its a retarded piece of patriachal crap (designed to treat women as chattels and to exchange and make babies - which has loooong passed its used by date.
now I've really done it *sigh 
ClaireBear
Banned
Aaaaaand relax... and breath!
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
tank girl said:
Since I believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, and not a predetermined condition, then please explain to me how someone, who, consciously or unconsciously, chooses a lifestyle outside of the mainstream should get the same benefits, and burdens, as the folks who do not make that choice.
tankgirl said:
Since I believe this is chosen behavior, then it's self-explanatory.
tankgirl said:
There you go again...mixing up genetic differences with personal choice. People don't, or didn't until recently, choose what natural eye color they have.
tankgirl said:besides, I can probably guess that there are probably more fuck-ups in heterosexual marriage these days than there would be in committed homosexual relationships. In my opinion, men and women were NEVER really meant to be "married" in the first place: to me its NOT natural: its a retarded piece of patriachal crap (designed to treat women as chattels and to exchange and make babies - which has loooong passed its used by date.
[rant]
Wow...you've got issues about this, don't you? Not only that, this last section is filled with what you believe, and what you do not believe. Just because you've had some bad relationships, throw the whole idea of marriage out the window. It doesn't work for you, so get rid of it entirely. How sad and pathetic. Just so you know, my ex-wife treated me like crap, but you don't see me saying that marriage is a bad thing. It's not. Marrying the wrong person, for the wrong reasons is what's wrong with marriage. It has nothing to do with 'patriarchal crap', as you put it. It has to do with having the inner strength to fully trust, and love someone for the rest of your life. Most people don't do that. They only live in the 'ME, ME, ME' world of existence, and never see how they destroy the very fabric of society with their selfishness and greed. They always look at what the neighbor has with envy, instead of what they have with joy. You talk about a lot of lunacy that we call marriage today, and claim that's what it's about. I tell you what. The reason marriage is so fucked up is because divorce is so easy. The society created by our 1960's 'sexual revolution' only made matters worse. How many marriages would be fucked up if you couldn't get a divorce? Better yet, how many fucked up people would get married if they knew they couldn't get out of it? That's exactly what happened with liberal divorce laws...now every fuck-up in the world can get married, and then clog up the court system with their divorce. Pull your head out of your butt, and stop blaming God for the problems people of your ilk started.[/rant]
ClaireBear
Banned
Gato_Solo said:
ditto with knobs on...
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
Leslie said:I just sorely misoverestimated the temperature and took my kids to school with no mitts, 3/4 length pants and backless shoes.
No snow is staying as yet tho
How is it where you are?
Sounds like somebody is getting 'cold feet' about living in Canada... 
PostCode
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If you respected my beliefs like you say you do, then you wouldn't be bashing it like a Christian was a disease.
The truth of the Bible is quite plain and quite simple. Either you belief in it or you don't. I never said YOU had to believe in it did I? No. Stop trying to make it sound like I'm the one shoving my beliefs down your throat. I'm telling you my beliefs. If you don't accept them that's fine. I'm not telling you I discriminate against homosexuality nor do I believe that my view has some overriding superiority over yours.
I never said I hated homosexuals. I have a few friends who are homosexual. Now, you tell me. Does me having a friend who is homosexual make me a Bible thumping, shove it down your throat, my way or hell, Christian? No. I respect one's beliefs. I'm not a Catholic, a Lutheran, a Methodist, or even a Jehovah's Witness. I'm a Christian. I believe in the Bible.
It's misguided because people make their own assumptions about what the Bible says, thus the variations of denominations. It's not propaganda, it's the truth. You don't believe it's the truth, fine. I believe it is. Well, as for the Bible being written by men, yes. But, the words of the Bible were God inspired. Of course, you’re not going to believe that. I respect that. You’re not going to believe in God so you’re not going to believe that God inspired the Bible. You’re also not going to believe in the Devil either. I do.
Open perspective? If I start changing my mind on issues that the very Bible believes in what does that make me? A hypocrite. No, I refuse to believe that by accepting homosexuality will make me a better person by "going with the flow". The Bible tells me that people will persecute us, that is, the believers, like this. That's fine with me.
Just like you say my beliefs cause me ignorance, your own believes have caused you ignorance. Ignorance of the truth. The truth itself is not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be hard because we go against it everyday. There you go again, bashing my beliefs. Get off your conception of God and Jesus being this "so-called conception".
Homosexuality is not determined by birth. It's personal choice. A person can say they are homosexual yet abstain from it. It's when they don't that they have broken the word of God. I never said there was a "pill" to make you "straight" now did I?
Again, you’re bashing beliefs here with this "gay-o-meter" bullshit. You say you respect it, yet you continue to bash it. I may very well get banned for this but I don't care.
You're post is seething in hypocrisy. You're a hypocrite by saying you respect something but then you turn right around and bash it.
On a side note, my wife's unit got put on alert this morning. Will hopfully find out more on Monday after a big meating that the senior commanders will be having.
The truth of the Bible is quite plain and quite simple. Either you belief in it or you don't. I never said YOU had to believe in it did I? No. Stop trying to make it sound like I'm the one shoving my beliefs down your throat. I'm telling you my beliefs. If you don't accept them that's fine. I'm not telling you I discriminate against homosexuality nor do I believe that my view has some overriding superiority over yours.
I never said I hated homosexuals. I have a few friends who are homosexual. Now, you tell me. Does me having a friend who is homosexual make me a Bible thumping, shove it down your throat, my way or hell, Christian? No. I respect one's beliefs. I'm not a Catholic, a Lutheran, a Methodist, or even a Jehovah's Witness. I'm a Christian. I believe in the Bible.
It's misguided because people make their own assumptions about what the Bible says, thus the variations of denominations. It's not propaganda, it's the truth. You don't believe it's the truth, fine. I believe it is. Well, as for the Bible being written by men, yes. But, the words of the Bible were God inspired. Of course, you’re not going to believe that. I respect that. You’re not going to believe in God so you’re not going to believe that God inspired the Bible. You’re also not going to believe in the Devil either. I do.
Open perspective? If I start changing my mind on issues that the very Bible believes in what does that make me? A hypocrite. No, I refuse to believe that by accepting homosexuality will make me a better person by "going with the flow". The Bible tells me that people will persecute us, that is, the believers, like this. That's fine with me.
Just like you say my beliefs cause me ignorance, your own believes have caused you ignorance. Ignorance of the truth. The truth itself is not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be hard because we go against it everyday. There you go again, bashing my beliefs. Get off your conception of God and Jesus being this "so-called conception".
Homosexuality is not determined by birth. It's personal choice. A person can say they are homosexual yet abstain from it. It's when they don't that they have broken the word of God. I never said there was a "pill" to make you "straight" now did I?
Again, you’re bashing beliefs here with this "gay-o-meter" bullshit. You say you respect it, yet you continue to bash it. I may very well get banned for this but I don't care.
You're post is seething in hypocrisy. You're a hypocrite by saying you respect something but then you turn right around and bash it.
On a side note, my wife's unit got put on alert this morning. Will hopfully find out more on Monday after a big meating that the senior commanders will be having.