Every day, the economy is becoming more and more an 0bama economy.

randomJACKASS

randomJACKASS

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Look, regardless of anyone's opinion, the Supreme Court is the arbiter of what is constitutional and what is not. The only way Obama will ever have any effect on that is if and when he appoints future justices.
 
Gato_Solo

Gato_Solo

Out-freaking-standing OTC member
2minkey said:
now grab your boots and become a heroic anti-socialist. do it for the flag. do it for mom but more importantly, do it for yourself.
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Fixed it for ya'.

AFAIK, you make the choices that affect your life, not anyone else. If you're so easily swayed by words, then you become a sheep.

*Note...this is the general you and not specific. If you choose to be offended, then ewe are already a sheep. ;)
 
randomJACKASS

randomJACKASS

Banned
OK, if you really want to know....

I grew up in a place called "The Hilltop Neighborhood" in Tacoma, Washington. Gang violence became commonplace in my high school years and just going to the store sometimes required a major "act of bravery". I have personally witnessed several drive by shootings and through mistaken identity have been the target of two shooting incidents myself. I never joined any gang, I vowed to never do that, but it was impossible to grow up there at that time and not have some affiliations. I have also had to go in the back yard and to the alley with a shotgun to chase those guys off and even had to shoot on a couple of occasions.

So Frodo, don't think that I do not appreciate the sacrifices the men and women in uniform give us, regardless if I find there politics agreeable or if I find it to be that of a knuckle dragging Neanderthal.

All the same, don't assume that I know nothing about bravery. I had to grow up with a fair amount, and even still I can't count the number of times me, or my friends got our asses beat, or robbed, just trying to live and go to school. It's one thing to go off to war, and quite another when the war is in your own neighborhood and back yard.

The "HTCG" or Hilltop Crip Gang has been running my old neighborhood to varying degrees for years. No it's not as bad as say South Central Los Angeles, but there have been a lot of times it is not at all a safe neighborhood to be in. If it wasn't the Crips or Bloods, it was the Cops, and I try not to blame them, knowing what they were up against, but they could be just about as dangerous as any other street gang.
 
2minkey

2minkey

bootlicker
i personally find the negative neandertal reference to be profoundly racist.

their brains were 50cc larger than ours on average, for pete's sake. they did not have chimp-length arms in proportion to the rest of their bodies.
 
jimpeel

jimpeel

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Anyone here think that Salon and Camille Paglia aren't liberal enough?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/03/11/mercury/

Heads should roll

President Obama's clumsy, smirky staff is sinking him -- and resurrecting a deflated GOP! Plus: Lay off Rush!

By Camille Paglia

March 11, 2009 | Free Barack!

Yes, free the president from his flacks, fixers and goons -- his posse of smirky smart alecks and provincial rubes, who were shrewd enough to beat the slow, pompous Clintons in the mano-a-mano primaries but who seem like dazed lost lambs in the brave new world of federal legislation and global statesmanship.

Heads should be rolling at the White House for the embarrassing series of flubs that have overshadowed President Obama's first seven weeks in office and given the scattered, demoralized Republicans a huge boost toward regrouping and resurrection. (Michelle, please use those fabulous toned arms to butt some heads!)

First it was that chaotic pig rut of a stimulus package, which let House Democrats throw a thousand crazy kitchen sinks into what should have been a focused blueprint for economic recovery. Then it was the stunt of unnerving Wall Street by sending out a shrill duo of slick geeks (Timothy Geithner and Peter Orszag) as the administration's weirdly adolescent spokesmen on economics. Who could ever have confidence in that sorry pair?

And then there was the fiasco of the ham-handed White House reception for British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, which was evidently lacking the most basic elements of ceremony and protocol. Don't they read the "Iliad" anymore in the Ivy League? Check that out for the all-important ritual of gift giving, which has cemented alliances around the world for 5,000 years.

President Obama -- in whom I still have great hope and confidence -- has been ill-served by his advisors and staff. Yes, they have all been blindsided and overwhelmed by the crushing demands of the presidency. But I continue to believe in citizen presidents, who must learn by doing, even in a perilous age of terrorism. Though every novice administration makes blunders and bloopers, its modus operandi should not be a conspiratorial reflex cynicism.

Case in point: The orchestrated attack on radio host Rush Limbaugh, which has made the White House look like an oafish bunch of drunken frat boys. I returned from carnival in Brazil (more on that shortly) to find the Limbaugh affair in full flower. Has the administration gone mad? This entire fracas was set off by the president himself, who lowered his office by targeting a private citizen by name. Limbaugh had every right to counterattack, which he did with gusto. Why have so many Democrats abandoned the hallowed principle of free speech? Limbaugh, like our own liberal culture hero Lenny Bruce, is a professional commentator who can be as rude and crude as he wants.

Yes, I cringe when Rush plays his "Barack the Magic Negro" satire or when he gratuitously racializes the debate over Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, who is a constant subject of withering scrutiny for quite different reasons on sports shows here in Philadelphia. On the other hand, I totally agree with Rush about "feminazis," whose amoral tactics and myopic worldview I as a dissident feminist had to battle for decades. As a student of radio and a longtime listener of Rush's show, I have gotten a wealth of pleasure and insight from him over the years. To attack Rush Limbaugh is to attack his audience -- and to intensify the loyalty of his fan base.

If Rush's presence looms too large for the political landscape, it's because of the total vacuity of the Republican leadership, which seems to be in a dithering funk. Rush isn't responsible for the feebleness of Republican voices or the thinness of Republican ideas. Only ignoramuses believe that Rush speaks for the Republican Party. On the contrary, Rush as a proponent of heartland conservatism has waged open warfare with the Washington party establishment for years.

And I'm sick of people impugning Rush's wealth and lifestyle, which is no different from that of another virtuoso broadcaster who hit it big -- Oprah Winfrey. Rush Limbaugh is an embodiment of the American dream: He slowly rose from obscurity to fame on the basis of his own talent and grit. Every penny Rush has earned was the result of his rapport with a vast audience who felt shut out and silenced by the liberal monopoly of major media. As a Democrat and Obama supporter, I certainly do not agree with everything Rush says or does. I was deeply upset, for example, by the sneering tone both Rush and Sean Hannity took on Inauguration Day, when partisan politics should have been set aside for a unifying celebration of American government and history. Nevertheless, I respect Rush for his independence of thought and his always provocative news analysis. He doesn't run with the elite -- he goes his own way.

President Obama should yank the reins and get his staff's noses out of slash-and-burn petty politics. His own dignity and prestige are on the line. If he wants a second term, he needs to project a calmer perspective about the eternal reality of vociferous opposition, which is built into our democratic system. Right now, the White House is starting to look like Raphael's scathing portrait of a pampered, passive Pope Leo X and his materialistic cardinals -- one of the first examples of an artist sending a secret, sardonic message to posterity. Do those shifty, beady-eyed guys needing a shave remind you of anyone? Yes, it's bare-knuckles Chicago pugilism, transplanted to Washington. The charitably well-meaning but hopelessly extravagant Leo X, by the way, managed to mishandle the birth of the Protestant Reformation, which permanently split Christianity.
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2minkey

2minkey

bootlicker
many - but perhaps not most - of us are smart enough to dismiss BOTH limbaugh and paglia as ridiculous cartoons.
 
Cerise

Cerise

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Voters' Obama Folly Coming Home to Roost

It's only been 7 weeks since the man whose resume fits nicely on the back of a postage stamp became the most powerful human being in the universe. As Presidents go, Barack Obama has proven at least one thing true: change is like the flip of a coin. Change can bring the best of times; change can bring the worst of times. And anyone over the age of twelve ought to have known that. Instead, 52% of the American electorate has run around like a bunch of howling ninnies for the past year chanting like a horde of Jim Jones' followers, who can't get enough of the poison kool-aid.

So much for progressive enlightenment.

With an economy in shambles, slinking toward all-out depression a little further each day, the President doesn't know the difference between a popularity-based political tracking poll and the confidence meter of the stock market, which represents the actual savings and pension funds of millions and millions of ordinary Americans. Heck, the golden boy of campaign one-liners doesn't even know that P/E ratio stands for price/earnings, not profit/earnings.
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The author's opinion is spot-on! ;)
 
Cerise

Cerise

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Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown

Barack Obama's offhand approach to Gordon Brown's Washington visit last week came about because the president was facing exhaustion over America's economic crisis and is unable to focus on foreign affairs, the Sunday Telegraph has been told.

Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been "overwhelmed" by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.


The Sunday Telegraph understands that one of Mr Obama's most prominent African American backers, whose endorsement he spent two years cultivating, has told friends that he detects a weakness in Mr Obama's character.

"The one real serious flaw I see in Barack Obama is that he thinks he can manage all this," the well-known figure told a Washington official, who spoke to this newspaper. "He's underestimating the flood of things that will hit his desk." A Democratic strategist, who is friends with several senior White House aides, revealed that the president has regularly appeared worn out and drawn during evening work sessions with senior staff in the West Wing and has been forced to make decisions more quickly than he is comfortable.
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London aghast at President Obama over gifts given to Prime Minister Brown

London newspapers are howling over a string of alleged snubs by Obama to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown during his visit to Washington last week — including a squabble over presidential gift-giving.

"President Obama has been rudeness personified towards Britain," sniffed The Daily Telegraph Friday. "His handling of the visit of the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, to Washington was appalling."

After Brown presented Obama with a pen holder crafted from the timbers of the 19th century British warship HMS President (whose sister ship, HMS Resolute, provided the wood for the Oval Office's desk), Obama offered up ... 25 DVDs of American movie classics.
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spike

spike

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The author's opinion is spot-on!
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I'm noticing a trend here where the Cons have absolutely nothing but ridiuclous opinion pieces to support their whining. It's as if they've been rendered helpless to rely on factual amterial. The republicans are self destructing into utter lunacy and idiocy.

the gap between Democratic and Republican approval of Congress is growing,

Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
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Brown had nothing but compliments and respect for Obama. Keep fishing though. I am enjoing this immensely.
 
2minkey

2minkey

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spike said:
I'm noticing a trend here where the Cons have absolutely nothing but ridiuclous opinion pieces to support their whining. It's as if they've been rendered helpless to rely on factual amterial. The republicans are self destructing into utter lunacy and idiocy.
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yeah and your whining opinion pieces is getting really old, too.

you think any of the crap that gets posted here is REALLY about "facts" or serious debate anyway... or at least debate that anyone with a nonkneejerking brain can take seriously... or is it more trading stupid cartoons and bumper stickers back and forth?

hmmmm yeah i think i know the answer.
 
spike

spike

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2minkey said:
yeah and your whining opinion pieces is getting really old, too.
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I don't post opinion pieces to prove anything. I sometimes post them in response to Jim just to show that some other writer has a different opinion.

you think any of the crap that gets posted here is REALLY about "facts" or serious debate anyway... or at least debate that anyone with a nonkneejerking brain can take seriously... or is it more trading stupid cartoons and bumper stickers back and forth?

hmmmm yeah i think i know the answer.
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It certainly seems like the debates here used to be at least a little more serious and fact based.
 
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