Illegals are getting help
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Winky
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Well another public service from the
“certain American Serviceman"
Thanks bud-dy at first I couldn't fathom
the source of your indignation.
When I read that white boys reference I immediately got "it".
(having lived in the Hispanic southwest all my life)
But through exhaustive research I see that in other segments of society this is clearly a reference to an entirely different sorta 'mama'!
My apologies for the misuse of the term.
Yes on the very rare occasion I’ve ever had the misfortune to behold a Hoochie it has been most traumatizing *shiver*
You might be a hoochie if.... (apologies to Jeff Foxworthy)
1). You've ever crawled out of a club because a fight broke out.
2). You've ever started a fight with someone because you didn't like the way someone looked at you.
3). You've ever messed up/trashed someone's outfit because it was identical to yours.
4). You've ever started a fight with another woman because they looked at your man "The Wrong Way".
5). You think of faux furs and leopard print clothing as "good clothes".
6). You ever went to your baby-daddy's job for money to buy milk or diapers.
7). You expect your man to pay you rent, and he doesn't live with you.
8). You've ever said, "I loved-ed my man, even when he did his time upstate for me".
9). You've ever said, "I love me some him".
10).Your wedding gown was a short cock-tail dress that was "hooked up" but the seamstress. (Who just so happened to your mother)
11).You bridesmaid gowns were bought from Weiners.
12).So were their shoes.
13).Your oldest daughter was the "Minature Bride" in the ceremony.
14).You and your boyfriend were banned from your child's Jr. High dances because the two of you led everyone to believe you were auditioning for a production of "Dirty Dancing".
15).You've ever gotten you hair and nails "did".
16).You and your mother are pregnant at the same time.
17).Your grandmother is 42, your mother is 28, and you are 14 with a baby on the way. (You do the math)
18).Your children are more than 6 years older than their aunts and uncles.
19).You believe no woman's wardrobe is complete w/out lycra and spandex.
20).Your fingernails are so long people often wonder how you wipe your @$$.
21).You always declare, "Ain't no shame in my game".
22).You bought matching outfits for you and your daughter. She wore hers to school and got sent home. You wore yours to work and was told to leave because your outfit was "inappropriate", and "distracting".
23).Some how, you grew 12" of hair in 10 hours.
24).Your hair is brown, your crochet braids are black and gold.
25).You're a 14, all of dresses are size 9's.
26).Your hair is so tall that you have a designated seat at the back of the movie theatre.
27).You consider glue, glitter, and chop sticks as hair accessories.
28).You aren't allowed to dance in the club because men slip you dollar bills.
29).You think you are high class just because you've drank $30.00 Moet and Chandon.
30.)Every babydaddy you have is in jail.
31).You've ever thrown any of the following at your man:
TV, VCR, Toasters, curling irons, irons, or any major appliance
32).You'd rather have a big screen TV than a computer.
33).Your name has more than one "Q" in the spelling.
34).Your name is more than three syllables long.
35).You name ends or begins with "La, Ta, Sha, Qa, Quo"
36).Any of the following songs can be your official theme song
Sock It To Me(Missy Elliot), Doo Wop (That Thing)(Lauryn Hill), One Night Stand(J-Shin), Hot Spot(Foxy Brown), You Know I'm A Hoe(Master P& Ice Cube)
37).You wear flip-flops and mini skirts to the store.
38).You've worn more than one hairstyle at a time (you know, finger waves on the front, crimps on the right, french roll, and spiral curls in the back)
39).You carry your baby on your hip.
40).You've got a baby on each hip.
“certain American Serviceman"
Thanks bud-dy at first I couldn't fathom
the source of your indignation.
When I read that white boys reference I immediately got "it".
(having lived in the Hispanic southwest all my life)
But through exhaustive research I see that in other segments of society this is clearly a reference to an entirely different sorta 'mama'!
My apologies for the misuse of the term.
Yes on the very rare occasion I’ve ever had the misfortune to behold a Hoochie it has been most traumatizing *shiver*
You might be a hoochie if.... (apologies to Jeff Foxworthy)
1). You've ever crawled out of a club because a fight broke out.
2). You've ever started a fight with someone because you didn't like the way someone looked at you.
3). You've ever messed up/trashed someone's outfit because it was identical to yours.
4). You've ever started a fight with another woman because they looked at your man "The Wrong Way".
5). You think of faux furs and leopard print clothing as "good clothes".
6). You ever went to your baby-daddy's job for money to buy milk or diapers.
7). You expect your man to pay you rent, and he doesn't live with you.
8). You've ever said, "I loved-ed my man, even when he did his time upstate for me".
9). You've ever said, "I love me some him".
10).Your wedding gown was a short cock-tail dress that was "hooked up" but the seamstress. (Who just so happened to your mother)
11).You bridesmaid gowns were bought from Weiners.
12).So were their shoes.
13).Your oldest daughter was the "Minature Bride" in the ceremony.
14).You and your boyfriend were banned from your child's Jr. High dances because the two of you led everyone to believe you were auditioning for a production of "Dirty Dancing".
15).You've ever gotten you hair and nails "did".
16).You and your mother are pregnant at the same time.
17).Your grandmother is 42, your mother is 28, and you are 14 with a baby on the way. (You do the math)
18).Your children are more than 6 years older than their aunts and uncles.
19).You believe no woman's wardrobe is complete w/out lycra and spandex.
20).Your fingernails are so long people often wonder how you wipe your @$$.
21).You always declare, "Ain't no shame in my game".
22).You bought matching outfits for you and your daughter. She wore hers to school and got sent home. You wore yours to work and was told to leave because your outfit was "inappropriate", and "distracting".
23).Some how, you grew 12" of hair in 10 hours.
24).Your hair is brown, your crochet braids are black and gold.
25).You're a 14, all of dresses are size 9's.
26).Your hair is so tall that you have a designated seat at the back of the movie theatre.
27).You consider glue, glitter, and chop sticks as hair accessories.
28).You aren't allowed to dance in the club because men slip you dollar bills.
29).You think you are high class just because you've drank $30.00 Moet and Chandon.
30.)Every babydaddy you have is in jail.
31).You've ever thrown any of the following at your man:
TV, VCR, Toasters, curling irons, irons, or any major appliance
32).You'd rather have a big screen TV than a computer.
33).Your name has more than one "Q" in the spelling.
34).Your name is more than three syllables long.
35).You name ends or begins with "La, Ta, Sha, Qa, Quo"
36).Any of the following songs can be your official theme song
Sock It To Me(Missy Elliot), Doo Wop (That Thing)(Lauryn Hill), One Night Stand(J-Shin), Hot Spot(Foxy Brown), You Know I'm A Hoe(Master P& Ice Cube)
37).You wear flip-flops and mini skirts to the store.
38).You've worn more than one hairstyle at a time (you know, finger waves on the front, crimps on the right, french roll, and spiral curls in the back)
39).You carry your baby on your hip.
40).You've got a baby on each hip.
unclehobart
New Member
Don't forget the black bra with a sheer white top.
ResearchMonkey
Well-Known Member
unclehobart
New Member
ooo... I'll have a 7 layer burrito and a bowl of that crud rice.
Winky
Well-Known Member
Border unit watches for illicit cash flow Some funds stem from drug trade; others are savings
Mon Jan 10, 3:40 AM ET Local - The Arizona Daily Star
By Michael Marizco , Arizona Daily Star
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NOGALES, Ariz. - The young woman in the white ski jacket hugged herself tightly, walking quickly down the ramp toward the Nogales port of entry, when a federal agent stopped her 50 feet from Mexico.
He asked if she had any money to report before leaving the United States and, according to the criminal complaint against her, Maribel Lopez Romero lied, telling the agent on Christmas Eve morning that she carried $9,000. Inside her jacket, agents found bundles of cash totaling $59,320 she was carrying to her house in Mexico for someone else, the complaint states.
The 24-year-old Mexican woman was arrested and charged with failing to report and transporting money, each charge carrying a maximum five years in prison. Her status is not known. She joins a large number of people arrested in Nogales trying to leave the United States with thousands of dollars in cash.
More than $2.6M seized
Long a favored incoming route for smuggling drugs and people, Southern Arizona is also popular for smuggling millions of dollars in cash south to Mexico, U.S. federal court records show.
Between Oct. 1, 2003, and Sept. 30, 2004, more than $2.6 million was seized as people tried to sneak the cash through the Nogales ports of entry, said Robert Fencel, supervisor for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection 11-member outbound inspection team at the port in downtown Nogales. Statewide, $12 million was seized in undeclared outgoing cash, said Customs and Border Protection spokesman Rick Pauza. Nobody knows how much got through.
The outbound inspection team works the southbound lanes of the port, sizing up individuals in the moving crowd and using a currency-sniffing dog, a black Labrador named Angus, to randomly inspect vehicles and pedestrians for money. Under U.S. law, people carrying more than $10,000 have to declare the money before leaving the United States. Those who do not declare it face charges of illegal transport of money or cash-smuggling charges. They can also lose the cash if they can't prove it's from a legitimate source.
People with more than $10,000 must fill out a customs declaration form. There are no duties or taxes to pay, but they are asked about the source of the money.
Officials are not always able to ascertain the source of the money or its final destination. Sometimes people are accused of carrying cash as drug-money couriers. Other times, people say they panicked and lied about how much they were carrying because they were afraid the money would be taken away by corrupt agents or they would be charged heavy taxes.
This creates a quandary, since along with drug money couriers, U.S. officials are also arresting Mexican nationals carrying home remittances - money they earn here and send home to Mexico - which the country's central bank, Banco de México, estimates at more than $15 billion in 2004.
While in some cases border crossers can prove they earned the money legitimately, many more are not able to say why they were carrying wads of cash stashed in their clothing or the glove compartments of their cars, or hidden inside bicycle tires.
The outbound team is the "last chance" to nab somebody trying to sneak money out of the U.S., Fencel said, dryly observing that the same techniques to bring drugs north work just as well to take the resulting money south.
Cash in bicycle tires
Take the case of Hugo Humberto Barriga Acevedo, 35, who faced federal felony transportation and cash-smuggling charges after agents at the Mariposa Port of Entry in Nogales said they found $40,936 stashed inside the tires of the child's bicycle he carried in his car last April.
Barriga Acevedo skipped out on his hearing in November and his whereabouts are unknown, said Stephen G. Ralls, the Tucson attorney who defended him. Under forfeiture rules, the same rules apply to southbound smuggling as they do to northbound - the U.S. government kept the money and Barriga Acevedo's 1999 Lexus, records show.
"It's intended to deter any kind of illegal trafficking by going straight towards the pocketbook," Ralls said. "The end result is the U.S. government makes a profit off of it."
Jesus Maria Gracia Salas was arrested in November 2003 carrying $20,420 when an inspector noticed he was walking with his hands in front of his crotch, his criminal complaint shows. He feared having to pay duties on the money and hid the money there. The Tucson roofer was sentenced to time served and two years probation.
A Homeland Security forfeiture officer at the port initially decides whether to exact a 5 or 10 percent civil fine on the spot or can arrest the person, seize the money and push for prosecution, said Jose Agostini, chief inspector at the Nogales downtown port of entry.
Those facing prosecution are decided on a case-by-case basis, usually when the person caught can't prove where the money came from, said Lynnette Kimmins, criminal division chief for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Tucson.
Sometimes people proved they were simply carrying the proceeds from selling a house or a car and taking the money home to Mexico, Kimmins said.
Others are afraid to declare the money for fear of prosecution if they weren't in the United States legally, Ralls said.
"A lot of times, people will pool their money together and designate one person to take it to their families in Mexico," Ralls said.
"They get nervous," said Customs and Border Protection officer Gerardo Ozorio-Quiroz after stopping a Mexican woman with $3,000 in her pocket. She couldn't satisfactorily explain to the outbound inspection team where the money came from or where it was going but had to be released because she didn't carry more than the proscribed $10,000.
"When you ask, they start to stutter. They say they were in a hotel in Tucson. So you ask them, 'Oh yeah, which room did you stay in?' and they don't know. They should. Everybody knows what hotel room they stayed in. They're lying," Ozorio-Quiroz said.
Last fiscal year, 42 cases were taken up by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Arizona against people trying to smuggle individual amounts of tens of thousands of dollars. In fiscal year 2003, 36 cases were prosecuted.
Pattern of travel
In Tucson, Drug Enforcement Administration agents seized $1 million in smuggled money coming into Tucson International Airport last fiscal year, said Anthony J. Coulson, assistant special agent in charge for the DEA's Tucson District office.
Shortly after Donell Benjamin Davis landed at the Tucson airport last June, he was approached by DEA agents who had received a tip he was coming, stopped him and asked him his name, his pre-sentence report filed in Pima County Superior Court showed.
He used a one-way ticket from New Jersey, carried no luggage and a tipster told agents he was working as a drug-money courier, reads the report.
Inside a shampoo bottle he carried on him was $45,000 he brought to Tucson after he was approached "by a dude" in a New Jersey bar, Davis told the agents. He was to be paid $1,500. Charged with second-degree money laundering, Davis was sentenced to six months in jail.
"We know a lot of these people are simply taking their earnings back to their families," said supervisor Fencel. "But you see someone with a bundle of money, it makes you stop and think."
Mon Jan 10, 3:40 AM ET Local - The Arizona Daily Star
By Michael Marizco , Arizona Daily Star
link
NOGALES, Ariz. - The young woman in the white ski jacket hugged herself tightly, walking quickly down the ramp toward the Nogales port of entry, when a federal agent stopped her 50 feet from Mexico.
He asked if she had any money to report before leaving the United States and, according to the criminal complaint against her, Maribel Lopez Romero lied, telling the agent on Christmas Eve morning that she carried $9,000. Inside her jacket, agents found bundles of cash totaling $59,320 she was carrying to her house in Mexico for someone else, the complaint states.
The 24-year-old Mexican woman was arrested and charged with failing to report and transporting money, each charge carrying a maximum five years in prison. Her status is not known. She joins a large number of people arrested in Nogales trying to leave the United States with thousands of dollars in cash.
More than $2.6M seized
Long a favored incoming route for smuggling drugs and people, Southern Arizona is also popular for smuggling millions of dollars in cash south to Mexico, U.S. federal court records show.
Between Oct. 1, 2003, and Sept. 30, 2004, more than $2.6 million was seized as people tried to sneak the cash through the Nogales ports of entry, said Robert Fencel, supervisor for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection 11-member outbound inspection team at the port in downtown Nogales. Statewide, $12 million was seized in undeclared outgoing cash, said Customs and Border Protection spokesman Rick Pauza. Nobody knows how much got through.
The outbound inspection team works the southbound lanes of the port, sizing up individuals in the moving crowd and using a currency-sniffing dog, a black Labrador named Angus, to randomly inspect vehicles and pedestrians for money. Under U.S. law, people carrying more than $10,000 have to declare the money before leaving the United States. Those who do not declare it face charges of illegal transport of money or cash-smuggling charges. They can also lose the cash if they can't prove it's from a legitimate source.
People with more than $10,000 must fill out a customs declaration form. There are no duties or taxes to pay, but they are asked about the source of the money.
Officials are not always able to ascertain the source of the money or its final destination. Sometimes people are accused of carrying cash as drug-money couriers. Other times, people say they panicked and lied about how much they were carrying because they were afraid the money would be taken away by corrupt agents or they would be charged heavy taxes.
This creates a quandary, since along with drug money couriers, U.S. officials are also arresting Mexican nationals carrying home remittances - money they earn here and send home to Mexico - which the country's central bank, Banco de México, estimates at more than $15 billion in 2004.
While in some cases border crossers can prove they earned the money legitimately, many more are not able to say why they were carrying wads of cash stashed in their clothing or the glove compartments of their cars, or hidden inside bicycle tires.
The outbound team is the "last chance" to nab somebody trying to sneak money out of the U.S., Fencel said, dryly observing that the same techniques to bring drugs north work just as well to take the resulting money south.
Cash in bicycle tires
Take the case of Hugo Humberto Barriga Acevedo, 35, who faced federal felony transportation and cash-smuggling charges after agents at the Mariposa Port of Entry in Nogales said they found $40,936 stashed inside the tires of the child's bicycle he carried in his car last April.
Barriga Acevedo skipped out on his hearing in November and his whereabouts are unknown, said Stephen G. Ralls, the Tucson attorney who defended him. Under forfeiture rules, the same rules apply to southbound smuggling as they do to northbound - the U.S. government kept the money and Barriga Acevedo's 1999 Lexus, records show.
"It's intended to deter any kind of illegal trafficking by going straight towards the pocketbook," Ralls said. "The end result is the U.S. government makes a profit off of it."
Jesus Maria Gracia Salas was arrested in November 2003 carrying $20,420 when an inspector noticed he was walking with his hands in front of his crotch, his criminal complaint shows. He feared having to pay duties on the money and hid the money there. The Tucson roofer was sentenced to time served and two years probation.
A Homeland Security forfeiture officer at the port initially decides whether to exact a 5 or 10 percent civil fine on the spot or can arrest the person, seize the money and push for prosecution, said Jose Agostini, chief inspector at the Nogales downtown port of entry.
Those facing prosecution are decided on a case-by-case basis, usually when the person caught can't prove where the money came from, said Lynnette Kimmins, criminal division chief for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Tucson.
Sometimes people proved they were simply carrying the proceeds from selling a house or a car and taking the money home to Mexico, Kimmins said.
Others are afraid to declare the money for fear of prosecution if they weren't in the United States legally, Ralls said.
"A lot of times, people will pool their money together and designate one person to take it to their families in Mexico," Ralls said.
"They get nervous," said Customs and Border Protection officer Gerardo Ozorio-Quiroz after stopping a Mexican woman with $3,000 in her pocket. She couldn't satisfactorily explain to the outbound inspection team where the money came from or where it was going but had to be released because she didn't carry more than the proscribed $10,000.
"When you ask, they start to stutter. They say they were in a hotel in Tucson. So you ask them, 'Oh yeah, which room did you stay in?' and they don't know. They should. Everybody knows what hotel room they stayed in. They're lying," Ozorio-Quiroz said.
Last fiscal year, 42 cases were taken up by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Arizona against people trying to smuggle individual amounts of tens of thousands of dollars. In fiscal year 2003, 36 cases were prosecuted.
Pattern of travel
In Tucson, Drug Enforcement Administration agents seized $1 million in smuggled money coming into Tucson International Airport last fiscal year, said Anthony J. Coulson, assistant special agent in charge for the DEA's Tucson District office.
Shortly after Donell Benjamin Davis landed at the Tucson airport last June, he was approached by DEA agents who had received a tip he was coming, stopped him and asked him his name, his pre-sentence report filed in Pima County Superior Court showed.
He used a one-way ticket from New Jersey, carried no luggage and a tipster told agents he was working as a drug-money courier, reads the report.
Inside a shampoo bottle he carried on him was $45,000 he brought to Tucson after he was approached "by a dude" in a New Jersey bar, Davis told the agents. He was to be paid $1,500. Charged with second-degree money laundering, Davis was sentenced to six months in jail.
"We know a lot of these people are simply taking their earnings back to their families," said supervisor Fencel. "But you see someone with a bundle of money, it makes you stop and think."
Winky
Well-Known Member
It was so funny yesterday my white schoolteacher neighbor couldn't believe that illegals have bought houses on our block she’s all "No way, how could they afford them"
Well honey when all your medical and food costs are covered and you receive housing assistance it's easy to pay for the good things in life!
Prop. 200 spurs efforts nationwide
Well honey when all your medical and food costs are covered and you receive housing assistance it's easy to pay for the good things in life!
Prop. 200 spurs efforts nationwide
catocom
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Winky said:
That's exactly one reason I started to feel guilty about drawing disability,
then I though about all this kinda stuff, and it made me think,
"piss on it. I might as well try to get me some of that. I deserve it just as much"
The Gov. is making so that it doesn't "pay" to try. If you're on the bottom
wrung like I am.
Winky
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Louie the streets may not be paved with gold here
but it's prudy durned close
Food Stamp Program
The freaky part is not only can ya get anywhere from $400.00 to $800.00's worth of food per month but in many cases they pile $400.00 on top in CASH!!!
There are organizations who devote their efforts FULLTIME to getting people into all these programs.
So all you wage slaves the next time (or the first time) you stop and add up all the taxes you pay (a full 50% of every dollar earned , in most cases) just ask yourself "where will it end"?
but it's prudy durned close
Food Stamp Program
The freaky part is not only can ya get anywhere from $400.00 to $800.00's worth of food per month but in many cases they pile $400.00 on top in CASH!!!
There are organizations who devote their efforts FULLTIME to getting people into all these programs.
So all you wage slaves the next time (or the first time) you stop and add up all the taxes you pay (a full 50% of every dollar earned , in most cases) just ask yourself "where will it end"?
Gonz said:So it should only be abused by citizens/legal immigrants?
It should be used not abused.
Perhaps you were typing slow, 'cause i edited my post soon after posting it, to clarify that point.
Point in question is, the hypocracy of bitching about our mexicans taking advantage of the flaws when you guys do the same while you're here?