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Libya was bombed because of acts of terrorism against US service members overseas. The Berlin Disco bombing was done with the approval of Libya. I can also remember when Libyan terrorists shot several people in London, and got off without one charge because they fired from the Libyan embassy. The weapons were never found, but were suspected to be in several containers shipped out a few days later under diplomatic seal. That's why the British government gave the US permission to fly from bases in the UK for that bombing. Our effort was retaliation. ;) Perhaps Oz is too young to know about that...Anyway...after that bombing, where, incidentally the French Embassy was hit, Libya got quite quiet on the terrorism front.

Just as a side note...up until that point, the IRA was being trained in camps in Libya...Not anymore.
 
Gato_Solo said:
Libya was bombed because of acts of terrorism against US service members overseas. The Berlin Disco bombing was done with the approval of Libya. I can also remember when Libyan terrorists shot several people in London, and got off without one charge because they fired from the Libyan embassy. The weapons were never found, but were suspected to be in several containers shipped out a few days later under diplomatic seal. That's why the British government gave the US permission to fly from bases in the UK for that bombing. Our effort was retaliation. ;) Perhaps Oz is too young to know about that...Anyway...after that bombing, where, incidentally the French Embassy was hit, Libya got quite quiet on the terrorism front.

Just as a side note...up until that point, the IRA was being trained in camps in Libya...Not anymore.

Man, this fucking thread is getting wierder :D

So now.....gonz is claiming that every act that is carried out by a foriegn national against a sovereign country should be treat as an act of war and acts of terrorism that are retaliated against with acts of terrorism are "kosher" ......... :confused:

Just as a side note...up until that point, the IRA was being trained in camps in Libya...Not anymore

Damn.....gonna have to see yer sources on this one Gato......first I've ever heard of that :confused:

And yes Gato......I remember quite well when policewoman Yvonne Fletcher was killed outside of the Libyan Embassy in London.....in fact, if you keep up with the news...you'll find that the UK is still trying to aprehend the culprits ;) Mebbe we should just send a few missiles their way......just to see that they get the message? Or should we refrain from murdering civilians? :confused:
 
Oz said:
gonz is claiming that every act that is carried out by a foriegn national

No. Every act carried out by a nation, using national resources, is an act of war.

Oz said:
acts of terrorism that are retaliated against with acts of terrorism are "kosher"
Huh?
 
Oz said:
Damn.....gonna have to see yer sources on this one Gato......first I've ever heard of that :confused:

Here's one...Check down around 1988...

Here's one for the camps...

Irish Republican Army (IRA) a.k.a. Provisional Irish, Republican Army (PIRA), the Provos

Description

Radical terrorist group formed in 1969 as clandestine armed wing of Sinn Fein, a legal political movement dedicated to removing British forces from Northern Ireland and unifying Ireland. Has a Marxist orientation. Organized into small, tightly knit cells under the leadership of the Army Council.

Activities

Bombings, assassinations, kidnappings, extortion, and robberies. Before its cease-fire in 1994, targets included senior British Government officials, British military and Royal Ulster Constabulary targets in Northern Ireland, and a British military facility on the European Continent. The IRA has been observing a cease-fire since July 1997; the group's previous cease-fire was from 1 September 1994 to February 1996.

Strength

Several hundred, plus several thousand sympathizers.

Local/Area of Operation

Northern Ireland, Ireland, Great Britain, and Europe.

External Aid

Has received aid from a vareity of groups and countries and considerable training and arms from Libya and, at one time, the PLO. Is suspected of receiving funds and arms from sympathizers in the United States. Similarities in operations suggest links to the ETA.

Source...
 
Gonz said:
No. Every act carried out by a nation, using national resources, is an act of war.

You were actually at war ..... legally, defined and declared war with Libya......facinating :)



Sorry.....now that I understand that the US was at war with Libya....it's all cleared up :)

Gato: Thanks for the links......I nearly fell off me chair laughing when they declared the IRA was formed in 1969.....but there it is! :D
 
Oz said:
Gato: Thanks for the links......I nearly fell off me chair laughing when they declared the IRA was formed in 1969.....but there it is! :D

Before 1969 they weren't 'official'. Theywere, to my knowledge, around since the 1920's...go figure...
 
Similarities in operations suggest links to the ETA.
The ETA and the IRA? Damn...now that's a surprise. Basques aren't terribly fond of the Irish...I was told as much personally. :)

By your definition, Gonz...Isreal must be either at war with Palestine or conduction GVT ssponsored acts of 'terrorism'. They havn't declared war though...not officially. What gives?
 
Seems to me that there was a war against Israel in which Palestine was taken. Palestine has yet to surrender and under international rule; Israel is not required to return the land until an accord has been met.

PLO and Israel simply have no harmony.
 
MrBishop said:
The ETA and the IRA? Damn...now that's a surprise. Basques aren't terribly fond of the Irish...I was told as much personally. :)
If both groups were trained by the same people, then their 'tactics' would be similar enough to draw that conclusion...
 
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