ObamaCare revisited

[spike]

Why does the left think that the gov. option will be superior to private ins?

It won't drop you when you get sick and people with pre-existing conditions. Many people will still opt for private insurance though if it works better for them in their situation.

At least insurance companies have to be competitive. But once government has someone in their system it's all over: there's nowhere else to go. They don't have to compete.

They could go back to private insurance if it works better. If the public option wasn't competitive than people will opt for private insurance.

If the government doesn't have to compete for people's business, what is their incentive to provide decent care? They'll be deciding what treatments people can get and who can get it. They'll be doing the same thing the insurance companies are accused of doing now, but with no competition.

They'll be competing with private insurance. But even in countries that don't have a private insurance option government run systems have proven to be more efficient and effective.

They will have control over who lives and who dies.

Private insurance has that control now.

Some people are apparently thinking "Oh no! I'll have another choice!".

 

[Cerise]

"If you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine; It's the Post Office that is always running into problems."

 

[Cerise]

Socialism hates corporations, but it wants everything to be run by what is essentially one giant corporation.

 

[Cerise]

How will the government be able to sustain a non-profit healthcare system without rationing care?

 

[Gonz]

They could go back to private insurance if it works better.

Except that private insurance will be done away with. It's in the bill.

 

[spike]

"If you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine; It's the Post Office that is always running into problems."

FedEx is losing money and laying off people.

 

[Winky]

and what do ya think most good doctors will do?
(not the Paki ones)

 

[spike]

Socialism hates corporations, but it wants everything to be run by what is essentially one giant corporation.

Yeah, there are no corporations in Sweden.

 

[Cerise]

Either buy government insurance or go to jail!

 

[spike]

How will the government be able to sustain a non-profit healthcare system without rationing care?

I suggest you study how the countries with better systems than ours do it.

 

[spike]

Except that private insurance will be done away with. It's in the bill.

You don't seem capable of discussing this issue without making up fictional shit.

 

[spike]

and what do ya think most good doctors will do?

Treat people.

 

[Cerise]

FedEx is losing money and laying off people.

How dare you contradict obama!

 

[Cerise]

I suggest you study how the countries with better systems than ours do it.

Maybe you have a link for the proof?

 

[Cerise]

and what do ya think most good doctors will do?
(not the Paki ones)

Retire.

 

[spike]

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42 Bahrain
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44 Qatar
45 Kuwait
46 Barbados
47 Thailand
48 Czech Republic
49 Malaysia
50 Poland

 

[spike]

Retire.

Yeah, like when they all retired when medicare started.

FEAR FEAR FEAR!!!

That kinda sums up the right's side of the argument on most issues. Doesn't it get old being so afraid all the time?

 

[Winky]

Many doctors (the good ones that don't need too)
won't accept Medi-care this I (we) know now
deny it ya putz

 

[Cerise]

Whycome the government insurance won't go into effect until 2013, but the taxes would start next year??

 

[Winky]

I know more than a Paki Doctor true story

"nasal Spray" it's a family joke we've had
for years about them idiots.