Psssttt.....

Because he came onto national television, pointeds his ugly stubbly hillbilly hand at me & said "I did not have sex with that woman. Ms Lewinski". I, at that poont said, I question it but I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Within days we had undeniable proof he was a goddamned liar.

He lied before a Grand Jury as a sworn witness AND as a sworn sitting President. He directly lied to the American people. He lied about lying. He got impeached only to have politics sve his fat lying ass.

I do not care about the blowjob. I care he lied.

Once again,
Show me one piece of verifiable evidence that they intentiionally misled us
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gonz said:
Show me one piece of verifiable evidence that they intentiionally misled us
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A.B.Normal said:
Before the War any evidence such as Satellite photos of a guarded enclosure was rebuked as normal activity ,instead of defending their evidence they simply pulled something else out of their ass(a meeting in Nigeria as an example) ,only to have it discounted too.Their continuence to produce evidence they weren't willing/able to defend says volumes ,unless you have your head in the sand.IMHO
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Are you totally discarding Powell's appearence before the UN in which he portrayed an Iranian's 10 year old term paper as current intelligence and proof that Iraq had these weapons?
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You can't recognize these as "intentional" attempts to mislead:confused:
 
rebuked by who? The oil soaked French?

If the meeting is the one I thin it is, that was common knowledge. Again, discounted by whom? The oil soaked Russians?

What would you like them to defend the intel with? Current, living sources? Once that info is out, the source is dead (figuratively if not literally).

We had this "term paper" thing worked out a year ago.
 
Come. follow me. This story may prove interesting, even with the NYTimes bent on it. I just started reading.
 
Claim:
Secretary of State Colin Powell released satellite shots of a weapons factory at Taji purporting to show that the site had been cleaned up before the arrival of UN inspectors.
Reality
The chief UN weapons inspector, Hans Blix, said the photos could show routine movement at the plant.
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I keep telling ya, I've done enough reading on it...He lied. Hes a murderer. But you like him that way...His satellite imagery was lies. His ground intel was lies. and on and on and on...I choose to not even listen anymore....
 
"There are still millions of documents that have yet to be examined, thousands of scientists and former government officials yet to be thoroughly debriefed, and countless possible hiding sites which have yet to be searched," the senior intelligence official said. "We find it puzzling that those who say the intelligence community reached its conclusions on limited evidence are reaching opposite conclusions on even less."
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YOU were ready to carpet bomb protesters ASKING for those answers. And NOW you want to talk about it? Look at how flimsy the evidence was for you to rush people to their death...Don't try pulling that shit now. YOU are the ones who accepted limited information and CONCLUDED people should die.
 
Over 12 years of playing hide & seek, you bet your ass I was ready. I was ready 10 years ago. After 9/11 I wanted to nuke the entire region.

Today-nothing has changed. Nothing except I see light at the end of the tunnel & there's no reason to think it's a train.

How many were you willing to allow to die, unarmed, before it was okay?


by the way
He has reported finding evidence that Iraqi scientists were working until the eve of the invasion to produce weapons using the poison ricin and that Mr. Hussein maintained a "clandestine network of laboratories" that could conceivably have been used to produce lethal biological agents.
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Gonz said:
Show me one piece of verifiable evidence that they intentiionally misled us & I'll lead the charge. Until then, I believe Bush was acting with the best interest of the USA in mind.
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I thought quite a bit of it was mentioned in the news as well as on here? he acted in his own intrest. that was established with the oil thing wasnt it? altruism is dead i guess. its all about power money and other things
 
An interim report by Dr. Kay last October said that Iraq had continued "weapons of mass destruction program-related activities." President Bush used the same language in his State of the Union address earlier this month. Dr. Kay has also said that while maintaining an infrastructure to produce biological weapons, Iraq "didn't have large-scale production under way."
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Pre-emptive was a Bush keyword after 9/11.

This would facilitate preemption

In the interview last October, the senior intelligence officials described the human intelligence as providing "brand new information" beginning in 2000 about mobile laboratories. They said an analysis based on the descriptions provided by the human sources suggested that the laboratories were capable of producing biological weapons at a high rate. At least one of the human sources had reported that Iraq "had actually done such production."

"We took that seriously as a biological weapon capability that exists," one of the intelligence officials said. "In our view what that means was we thought they had probably produced agent and weapons and had them sitting around. Did we know that? No."

Still, the official said: "What we had was, we thought, a rather competent judgment that they in fact had taken the program on and produced weapons and agent."
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National interest & national security
 
Gonz said:
Over 12 years of playing hide & seek, you bet your ass I was ready. I was ready 10 years ago. After 9/11 I wanted to nuke the entire region.

Today-nothing has changed. Nothing except I see light at the end of the tunnel & there's no reason to think it's a train.

How many were you willing to allow to die, unarmed, before it was okay?


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If you're going to play the 9/11 card, then why the fuck weren't you screaming for us to attack the guilty country like I was? Don't try to cheerlead your way out of this by draping yourself in the flag again. IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.

Thats the BIGGEST reason I'm pissed about all of this. Thats the biggest part of the lie. Saudi Arabia (read: Bush's buddies) Got a free ride for 9/11 because of this diversion....The whole fucking thing played right into Bush and his friends. And they desecrated the honor of the victims of 9/11 by using their name to pull it off. :cuss:
 
EVERYBODY LOOK!

I will now admit that after 12 years & countless hours reading & researching, I have found something that implies the UN did good.

Indeed, Dr. Kay and the Senate Intelligence Committee have concluded that while Mr. Hussein had ordered spending at scattered nuclear research operations in recent years, the sanctions had taken an enormous toll. Inspectors found a program that existed mostly on paper, save for a few blueprints and centrifuge parts that Mahdi Obeidi, an Iraqi scientist, dug up from his garden. Dr. Obeidi, who has been moved to the United States, reported that the parts had been buried for 12 years and that sanctions had made it virtually impossible to breathe new life into a once sophisticated program.
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Squiggy this may seem like a rude question but please do not take it as such.




do you think 9/11 was the best thing to happen to Bush? I ask because your last statement made me think of an older thread where someone had that as a discussion point.




and many right wingers are trying to coincile the 9/11- Iraq rather than your 9/11- SA connection
 
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