Report says Iran not working on "nookyaler" weapons

:rolleyes: Climb down off that cross, use the wood to build a bridge and get over it, huh?
 
oberman or hannity

can we post stories from them both & have zero smartassed responses?

Hell no.
 
Please, take your time. I work two jobs now in an effort to pay off my mounting medical bills, so it'll likely be tomorrow before I have an opportunity to read this thread again.

I will (take all the time in the universe) because I feel no need at all to answer you, justify, or explain to you, or even think about why you have the wild (end of life?!?) insane, and delusional ideas in your head that make you eroneously believe I am anti American. Why you have to read the white part when you obviously are not fluent in that language, and not the black part and take it at face value and noting more, I do not know. There really is nothing hiding in the white space but more words I could dig for to use to try and make you understand what I was really saying. It was simple I explained it best I can, with my ususal sardonic and somewhat over dramatized way, but I really have given up because no matter what I could do, you are not capable of understanding me or what I say at all, and likely never will be. I pity you for the condition that seems to afflict you though.

I will also be a big enough man to say that I most often suffer the very same affliction, because as they say "it takes one to know one". The difference is that I am actively working on growing and changing for the better. Progress is very slow, but the efforts are yeilding tangeable results. Its a uniquely human conditon and I cannot really judge you for it, when I am so guilty myself. But nowadays, occasionally I do understand someone, why they feel the way they do, and am able to put myself in their shoes and expereince empathy. I can sometimes even do this and still disagree with their viewpoint, and this here, with you and your opinions, is one of those rare, but increasingly more frequent occasions.

I will leave it at this; may god bless you and grant you all that I want in life for myself. Good day sir.
 
More on the subject of the OP:

Just 18% Believe Iran has Stopped Nuclear Weapons Development Program

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...s_stopped_nuclear_weapons_development_program


Moderate and liberal foreign policy experts said that U.S. intelligence agencies, possibly eager to demonstrate independence from White House political pressure, may have produced a National Intelligence Estimate that is more reassuring than it should be on the potential risks of the Iranian nuclear program.....

....."The position I take is that President Bush is right on this," said Iran expert Ray Takeyh, a former professor at the National War College and National Defense University, now at the Council on Foreign Relations.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...mo&coll=la-headlines-world&ctrack=1&cset=true
 
it doesn't matter if they have stopped it or not. facts have never gotten in the way of ANYONE's foreign policy objectives.
 
Yeah and also that's 18% of Americans that don't believe it. Well probably 75% of Americans are "Christians" so does that mean we should restart the crusades? The "intelligence" is that to the best of their knowlege, Iran has stopped.

2minkey said:
it doesn't matter if they have stopped it or not. facts have never gotten in the way of ANYONE's foreign policy objectives.

And that's the bottom line. No matter what "intelligence" reports say, and what the truth is, president Cheney will do as he wishes, serving first his own ambition, then that of his political party, and way down the list of his priorities, he might think about what's best for the American people.
 
Even you Gonz, aren't that thick, You know damn well what I meant.

I wasn't talking to YOU anyway, you are a hopeless case. You have your political stance carrved on stone tablets, indellible and unchangeable.

You strike me as the kind of guy, that if it could be proven that in the future your politcal ideals would end in the destruction of the entire planet, I doubt you'd change your views, because A, by then you and Gonz junior would be dead, and hell it was a nice ride for us right? Who fuckin' cares what happens after I am not around, and B, you are so convinced you are right all the time that you believe your own lies so much that if you could be PROVEN wrong beyone a shadow of a doubt you'd refuse to accept the truth.
 
Wassa matta? Getting reminded of the truth puts a hole in your agenda?
 
See the thing you don't understand is that in my position, with my background, and my afflictions, there is every possibility you'd be far more volatile than I have ever been. You don't know shit about me other than what I tell you and conservative are inherently incapable of empathy. Therefore all your projections about who and what I am and how I react are just your own bullshit again. I don't debate you any more, I already said that.

But now I realize you are nothing but a popular troll, because most of these conservative non trolls agree with you doesn't make you any less a troll. I am not some pussy that uses the ignore button. I am sure I will read some of your posts in the future, but from now on I will treat you just as I did the last troll.....

I will no longer publicly acknowledge your existence, I will no longer feed the troll.
 
As if you aren't exactly the same only more so...

I think the proper usage is "I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you call me bounces off of me and sticks to you."

OR

"It takes one to know one"

OR

"I know you are; but what am I?"
 
See the thing you don't understand is that in my position, with my background, and my afflictions, there is every possibility you'd be far more volatile than I have ever been. You don't know shit about me other than what I tell you and conservative are inherently incapable of empathy. Therefore all your projections about who and what I am and how I react are just your own bullshit again. I don't debate you any more, I already said that.

But now I realize you are nothing but a popular troll, because most of these conservative non trolls agree with you doesn't make you any less a troll. I am not some pussy that uses the ignore button. I am sure I will read some of your posts in the future, but from now on I will treat you just as I did the last troll.....

I will no longer publicly acknowledge your existence, I will no longer feed the troll.

As with all of us I, too, have my past transgressions; but my transgressions never included physical violence, kidnappings and beatings with baseball bats.

You are an admitted purveyor of violence, mostly due to your past dabblings in drugs and alcohol I'm sure. The fact is that you NEVER debated me at all. You lowered yourself to name calling and snappy one-liners and never entered the debate at all.

Do you simply hang around here for the abuse? You certainly don't seem bent on doing anything productive or adding anything prescient to the debate.

Perhaps it is better that we are parted because you can't handle what those who gather here have to say if it doesn't fit into your neatly packaged ideal worldview.

If you ever do want to debate -- and I mean debate on a fact based level where you actually do some legwork and post links and citations instead of posting barbs and one-liners -- look me up.

By the way. You really, really, really need to look up the definition of "Troll" as it is used on posting boards. Hell, you can't even get that into context.
 
You don't know shit about me other than what I tell you and conservative are inherently incapable of empathy.

You're very confused on this, we are quite empathic. Self motivated understanding and compasion for another, we understand the inequity of some situations.

What you're speaking about is PC forced compasion and concern for repetitive poor choices, behaviors, we call that stupidity.

....that covers about half of your point.
 
jeez you guys really are ready to go on springer. i've haven't hit anyone since... maybe the seventh grade...?
 
jeez you guys really are ready to go on springer. i've haven't hit anyone since... maybe the seventh grade...?

Got trash-canned alot then I take it?

Its been two decades or better, but still willing if need be.

If I ever did get invited to be on Jerry, I'd just beat the snot out my wife right then and there...just because somethings up. :grin:
 
conservative are inherently incapable of empathy

Empathy? When the situation warrants. Forgiving of most too.

We just know that a hand up does not start with a hand out.
 
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