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[ekahs retsam]

But I see a clear and definable difference between some spray paint on a monument and an exploded hull of a building with scores of dead bodies about.

I agree but I think it is important to remember that if the issue underlying the vandalism is not resolved it can escalate to greater destruction and violence.

 

[MrBishop]

I gotta say, calling graffiti and such terrorism is a bit of a stretch. I can't recall anyone writing on anything and it making me feel terror.

I get incensed when monuments are defaced, but it does not make me afraid.

We as a culture are applying too fantastic a label on things these days. Sensationalism I suppose. But I see a clear and definable difference between some spray paint on a monument and an exploded hull of a building with scores of dead bodies about.

You two are missing the point. I didn't try to equate political slogans with 9/11. I didn't even try to equate it with a carbomb, but just because you don't find it frightening doesn't mean that it isn't.

Finding a swastica painted on your Jewish Grandmother's grave isn't the same as Gonz's link. The same as finding slogans from the IRA painted on the side of a church in London or a Basque slogan on a hospital in Barcelona isn't even in the same league with some bored teenager spraypainting his initials in a alleyway somewhere.

If a huge "Kill all the infidels" (in araibic) was found spray-painted on the statue of Liberty one fine NY morning... would you think that it might cause some fear?

The IRA, PIRA ETA etc... do more than spraypaint..far more. Still not convinced about the 90% argument.

 

[Professur]

I agree but I think it is important to remember that if the issue underlying the vandalism is not resolved it can escalate to greater destruction and violence.

Then what do you propose to do about it?

 

[MrBishop]

and this is terrorism

It's also not Muslim terrorism.

 

[unclehobart]

I also do not consider grafitti to be terrorism... but gangs go well beyond terrorism. Theres theft, kidnapping, murder, rape, internet scams, bank robberies... all kinds of fun stuff. Don't think in the 'America only' box. In Aisa, India, Sri Lanka, Africa, Russia, and South America, gangs are some nasty, nasty entities. Remember how the Russian gangs were batering modern military weaponry and supposedly enriched uranium? Its gang.. and it certainly terror.

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

Finding a swastica painted on your Jewish Grandmother's grave isn't the same as Gonz's link. The same as finding slogans from the IRA painted on the side of a church in London or a Basque slogan on a hospital in Barcelona isn't even in the same league with some bored teenager spraypainting his initials in a alleyway somewhere.

If a huge "Kill all the infidels" (in araibic) was found spray-painted on the statue of Liberty one fine NY morning... would you think that it might cause some fear?

The IRA, PIRA ETA etc... do more than spraypaint..far more. Still not convinced about the 90% argument.

So then, am I to consider


this

and this

and this

to be acts of terrorism?

 

[MrBishop]

So then, am I to consider


this

and this

and this

to be acts of terrorism?

Certainly hate crimes...and certainly indicative of things to come. Like MS said...it starts small.

Those slogans painted on the streets in Northern Spain that I mentioned in an earlier post, caused one hell of a ruckus the next morning. And although not exactly terrorised, the people were jumpier than normal, looked at anyone new (including me) very suspitiously and the tension didn't go away for a few days. Why? Because the people there know that ETA doesn't just paint slogans...they make and detonate bombs, they kidnap people and sometimes anti-ETA people dissapear.

 

[Gonz]

It's also not Muslim terrorism.

Which is why I chose it. Terrorism, no matter how badly the left wants it not to be, is the target, not Islam.

 

[freako104]

Which is why I chose it. Terrorism, no matter how badly the left wants it not to be, is the target, not Islam.

Then we can agree on that note. Problem was you pulled out the Muslim when I mentioned it. That was where it seemed like your interest was in more the Arabic and Muslim terrorists

 

[Gonz]

When they're the ones holding the bombs, you bet your ass they're the ones I look at. So should the TSA. Instead, they're stopping infants with the same names from boarding.