AnomalousEntity said:So this guy says to me "mind if I spoke"
I go: "no not at all do you mind if I fart? Nasty habit I know. I tried to quit for a while but I gained weight. You know I get so tired of people saying ""oh I cant stand to smell second hand fart"". I mean if you dont like it...go the fuck some where else right? Man, Ill tell you what... Farting is so satisfying. Some days after a long bad day at work...I just feel like Im going to explode if I cant just get out and have a great big fart. Its like....ahhhhhwwww... great fart. You know? Im going to quit one of these days. I read some where that the average farter would be a million air if he could just save the money he spends on laundry detergent and new underware. I dont know if thats true or not..I mean, If I wasnt spending the money to get rid of skid marks...Id just spend it on somthing else..."
markjs said:I used to smoke and I am now the worst of the worst...The vehemently anti smoking poster child. It's an evil habit and oh so hard to quit...I am against it 100% should be outlawed in all public places....IT should be outlawed in any home that has minor children, and it should be a felony for a pregnant woman to smoke. Smoking must be stopped at all costs, but I do not think the state should be able to ban it completely on private property so long as its only among consenting and hopefully fully educated as to the dangers, adults.
Gonz said:Where to start???
Evil?? C'mon. It doesn't murder. It doesn't fly planes into buildings. It doesn't bake Jews. It isn't the devil incarnate. Nasty, smelly, filthy...maybe. Not evil.
Outlawed in public places? It is, mostly. And why? I don't like your choice of after shave. It makes me wanna vomit green Exorcist" stuff. So what, I can walk away from you. You, by the same token can walk away also. People should not be subjected to things they don't like. That fairly well means don't leave your house.
Outlawed in homes? Sorry bud, you can take my cigarettes if you can get past my .44. Minors have been subjected to this, and far far worse & never had a scar. Stay out of my house & stay away from my kids. It's none of your business. Don't like it? Don't do it.
My opinion on smoking: It sucks. It smells. It's expensive. It's stupid. and most of all IT'S LEGAL.
Gonz said:Oh Mark, you've beenduped. There are more "poisons" coming out of your exhaust pipe than smoking produces. Your kitchen cleaner has more chemicals, in a far more lethal dose, than 10000 cases (not cartons) of smokes.
I'm still waiting for someone to show proof that cigarettes cause cancer. You can't. It doesn't exist.
Gonz said:"clean burning propane or alcohol" still produces toxins. multiply those toxeins by the several million cars & not much cahnges. you want clean burning? try hydrogen. but first, fix the part about a large explosion during an accident.
Nobody has ever died from second hand smoke. It's a myth. The only thing it's proven to cause is shortness of breath & that can be remedied by exercise.
Trying to Establish Cause
A statistical correlation between two phenomena is simply that. It does not prove that one phenomenon caused the other. Just because A is often associated with B, does not prove that A causes B. Example: the incidence of cirrhosis of the liver is associated with cigarette smoking. Does smoking cause cirrhosis? Probably not. Excessive consumption of alcohol is a more likely cause. However, as heavy drinkers tend to be heavy smokers, the statistical association is there, but in this case is probably a confounding variable.
So how strong is the case against cigarettes?
Defenders of the tobacco industry frequently claim that no one has proved that cigarette smoking causes lung cancer. In one sense they are right. Proof from epidemiology differs from proof in a laboratory experiment. What we have seen here is that the more closely we can meet the several criteria linking A and B, the more confident we can be that A causes B.
Few epidemiological studies have met these criteria better than those studying the statistical relationship between smoking and health. Smoking is probably the greatest single cause of preventable illness in the United States.
a jack booted goose stepping neo conservative neandrathal like you
look up acetaldehyde and formaldehyde, both of which are produced by alcohol fuels at levels much higher than from hydrocarbons.
Another problem the widespread introduction of alcohol fuels would be the increase in global carbonyl pollution of the atmosphere, with unknown consequences.
markjs said:Acetaldehyde is what makes you drunk...The entire nation of Brazil utilizes alcohol fueled automobiles