solider kills child

what would you do

  • kill the kid he is a threat

    Votes: 10 62.5%
  • attempt to disarm child without harming or killing him

    Votes: 6 37.5%
  • let him go see if hell hand it to you

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • see if hell run

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    16
Well, there are other factors. Its not just 'you or the kid.' I imagine you have some troops with you. We're talking about an RPG right? You could obviously yell as loudly as you could for him to stop, if he continued, then he must know what the result would be. You could only assume he was trying to use it, not to hand it over to you. I assume we have taught our troops some basic language skills for just this possibility, or one like it. If, after warning them they will be shot if they continue to reach for it, the soldier must shoot. He has the duty to protect the rest of the troops as well as himself. We are talking about war, not a kid with a plastic gun on the street that a cop accidently shoots. Things are a little more extreme in this case, and actions also must be.

I wish I could say there is another way, but there isn't in this case. Maybe you couldn't live with it, but you probably couldn't live with it the other way either.
 
Justintime said:
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role playing ;) not player.






and in terms of the child he was going for the rpg before he was shot. ill check the net and see if i can find the article again.
 
Jeslek said:
You know flavio, from my response I would have thought it would be clear what I would do, but I guess it takes some spoon feeding...

Yes, if you're armed and pointing a gun at me and I have to decide whether you're going to live or I'm going to live, it will be me and you will be shot (my decision at least, whether I manage to carry that out isn't the topic). Now I would hate doing it and it wouldn't be easy to live with.

I guess you still don't understand. That wasn't really the situation here.
 
You're absolutely right, Flav, it wasn't. But what it was was a kid about to pick up a very lethal weapon. A weapon that could easily kill ten or more people with one shot. Do you allow the child to do this before you fire? It's a judgement call that nobody here can even start to understand unless you've been over there being shot at for a few days.
 
Yeah, you're right PT. Even though some of us say we'd do it in a heartbeat, it might not be so easy as that. I'd like to think that I could do it, because sadly I feel that in this case, its probably the right thing to do. But saying and doing are of course another matter. The same goes for those who say they couldn't. You might say you wouldn't, but instinct may take over, and you may just do it, even though you think you wouldn't. Its hard to say until you've been there. I certainly wouldn't doubt that the soldier had no other choice if he did make that choice. How can you?
 
flavio said:
I guess the thread is pointless then?




i didnt think it was. it did happen. the solider hated what he did but said he did what he had to. the situation again to both you and jizlick is that the child went for the weapon before he was shot.
 
freako104 said:
flavio wrote:
I guess the thread is pointless then?






i didnt think it was. it did happen. the solider hated what he did but said he did what he had to. the situation again to both you and jizlick is that the child went for the weapon before he was shot.

I was responding to this.....

PuterTutor said:
It's a judgement call that nobody here can even start to understand unless you've been over there being shot at for a few days.
 
Well, you can't understand it completely and fully, but I imagine you can have a pretty good idea. It doesn't take that much imagination. I wouldn't say its pointless. Imagine the thing that scared you most your life, preferably something life threatening, and think how you might react under those circumstances. My guess is quickly ;) That tends to rule out a whole lot of time to ponder the implications of one action or another. Thus, I would think most people would instinctively shoot, regardless of what we'd like to say we would do.
 
Flav said:
I was responding to this.....

Yep, that's what I meant. Exactly. I'm so fucking glad you are here to set things straight for us.
 
PuterTutor said:
Flav said:
I was responding to this.....

Yep, that's what I meant. Exactly. I'm so fucking glad you are here to set things straight for us.


:confuse3:

I didn't think Freako understood what post I was replying to. Does that piss you off or something?
 
flavio said:
I guess the thread is pointless then?

No, this. And it's not pointless, it's talking about what we would do if in that situation. It is a little hard to ask us what we would do, it's like asking us which of our children would we save first from a burning building. You don't know until you get in that situation, so it's fine to sit here and speculate, and make judgements, but to be there, to feel the emotions going through you at the time, you have to be there. That was my point. Not that this thread was pointless.
 
PuterTutor said:
You don't know until you get in that situation, so it's fine to sit here and speculate, and make judgements, but to be there, to feel the emotions going through you at the time, you have to be there.

Ok, then. We'll just have to keep speculating. Sorry I misunderstood.
 
Attempt to keep him from the weapon first. If that doesn't work, then the child would most likely be shot. I don't like the idea, but I like the idea of a child running around with a Rocket Propelled GGrenade launcher even less. It's a bad choice either way, but one that must be made. We see instances too often of children killing children with guns, knives, etc to just assume that his/her intentions are good...especially in that kind of environment, where quite a few children have been trained to be soldiers...or have we forgotten that Saddam had boys as young as 8 training to be his warriors?
 
flavio said:
I couldn't live with myself killing a kid that possibly wasn't even a threat.

Two rather unfortunate choices, kill him & have nightmares or die.

fury said:
Personally I doubt the kid would've been able to pick up a gun of that calibre,

These aren't tender handed big American city children with nannies. At 10 I was hauling 50lb sacks of feed. They know how to use them. saddam has a version of the hitler youth. Join or go to PRISON.
 
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