solider kills child

[freako104]

don't want the world to become anti-american over this.

im sure its already starting. some are becoming anti american moreso

 

[Ardsgaine]

I don't want the world to become anti-american over this.

You're about thirty years too late.

 

[RD_151]

Yep, but it could get worse, much worse!

 

[MrBishop]

"Harm not, when holding is enough; wound not, when hurting is enough; maim not, when wounding is enough; kill not when maiming is enough; The greatest warrior is he who does not have to kill"

Robert Jordan...I guess.
Works for me...I'm paraphrasing anyway

 

[MrBishop]

Role Player Game?

Oh...I thought we were talking about a Rocket Propelled Grenade...the kid was going for a 1st edition Dungeons and Dragons boxed set

Hell....shoot the kid!!

 

[freako104]

Oh...I thought we were talking about a Rocket Propelled Grenade...

we were he wasnt

 

[Ardsgaine]

Oh...I thought we were talking about a Rocket Propelled Grenade...the kid was going for a 1st edition Dungeons and Dragons boxed set

Hell....shoot the kid!!

Damn right! We all know what gaming leads to... Next thing you know, he'd be blowing up the sewers in Muncie.

 

[Gato_Solo]

No you are just dead wrong. But keep looking for things to make you feel better.

Pardon me, but that post was based on ignorance of what happens in a war. Fact is, there are no second chances. If you were there, perhaps you would have let the child go. More power to you, but you weren't there, and I'm pretty sure you will never be put in such a situation. The soldier did what he had to do given the circumstances. How many times must somebody say this before it sinks in. If you wish to protest the war, do so, but never second-guess those of us who are ordered to go in there in this kind of situation. It's not about feeling good. It's about doing a thankless job in a little corner of the world that you, personally, would never go to, and, if you did, would never stay. We, as service folks, didn't choose to be here (spare me the platitudes of why we volunteered to be in the service), but we are here, and, as in every war, people get killed, maimed, and, yes, even get their feelings hurt. It's not about nice. It's about results. You can also spare us the grisley details about civilian deaths. As war goes, we've had extremely few. Even one innocent dying is tragic, but, before you begin your tirade, you must also concede that the US, above most every other country, strives to keep those deaths to a minimum. Don't believe me? Look up the statistics yourself, since you'll debate those with me instead of the truth, but, until you do, I leave you with this...You, flavio are, without a doubt, the most ignorant person in this regard I've ever argued with, and if a relatively few civilian casualties are all the facts you have, then you have nothing.

 

[Gato_Solo]

It makes me feel better knowing that 160 Iraqi children are now out of prison.

http://www.otcentral.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7977

In other news....many children are dead now.

Prove that many children died as a result of that. It's a piss-poor argument, and morally offensive as well. While it may not be propaganda, it doesn't prove anything...

 

[flavio]

More power to you, but you weren't there, and I'm pretty sure you will never be put in such a situation.

Gato - You seem to be going off on a tangent. This thread was simply about speculating what we would do in the situation (check the poll options). If we can't speculate then the thread is pointless.

Nowhere did I even condemn the soldier who shot the kid.

Take it easy. You seem to be putting an awful lot of words in my mouth.

 

[Ardsgaine]

Take it easy. You seem to be putting an awful lot of words in my mouth.

In your own words....

Two rather unfortunate choices, kill him & have nightmares or die.

...or disarm him....or take the weapon when he hands it to you....maybe some other choices as well.

not during a war

What about an invasion?

Invaders aren't cheered by the populace. Invaders don't stop this kind of thing they start it. Sorry flavio, you are just dead wrong on your stance against this war.

Read some of these stories & threads

No you are just dead wrong. But keep looking for things to make you feel better.

It makes me feel better knowing that 160 Iraqi children are now out of prison.

http://www.otcentral.com/forum/show...p;threadid=7977

In other news....many children are dead now.

In your own words, this is an invasion which we should not feel good about because it is killing civilians, including children. Regardless of all the good that will come from this war, regardless of all the people Saddam has murdered and would have murdered if we had left him in power, you think that those deaths trump everything. I can't respond to you better than Gato already has...

You, flavio are, without a doubt, the most ignorant person in this regard I've ever argued with, and if a relatively few civilian casualties are all the facts you have, then you have nothing.

and...

Prove that many children died as a result of that. It's a piss-poor argument, and morally offensive as well. While it may not be propaganda, it doesn't prove anything...

 

[flavio]

What does any of that have to do with how I would answer this poll in this thread?

Really?

 

[freako104]

In your own words, this is an invasion which we should not feel good about because it is killing civilians, including children

we shouldnt feel good about killing women/children ourselves but we should be proud to get sadam out of power.

 

[outside looking in]

 

[freako104]

is the ashamed for me or flav?? my apologies if its on my half since these are my feelings and opinions.

 

[outside looking in]

It's not for you.

 

[flavio]

is the ashamed for me or flav??

He likes to post stupid little meaningless crap or insults directed at me whenever he gets the chance.

It's not as if it adds to the conversation but I think he believes that's what moderators do.

edit: Oh yeah, and emoticons....lots of emoticons.

 

[Luis G]

No you are just dead wrong. But keep looking for things to make you feel better.

 

[outside looking in]

He likes to post stupid little meaningless crap or insults directed at me whenever he gets the chance.

It's not as if it adds to the conversation but I think he believes that's what moderators do.

edit: Oh yeah, and emoticons....lots of emoticons.

 

[outside looking in]

edit: Oh yeah, and I really don't think you want to get into "what moderators do."