Somebody doesn't get it
- Thread starter Gonz
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ClaireBear said:
They need to learn too. That's why there are special education teachers. I've witnessed, firsthand, the disruptions a special needs child presents in a normal class & the missed time for education. It horrendous.
I've never seen your arsee so I'm unable to discriminate. So sorry. I did prove my point though. As a teacher you really need to differentiate before assuming the worst. I bet you think there is someting called reverse discrimination.
ClaireBear
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Leslie said:
Don't feel guilty you're doing the right thing... trust me I'm a teacher!
whyever would this get nasty?
I agree very strongly AGAINST homeschooling... I've seen and socialised wirth some of the products of it when I went to uni *shudder*... I'll argue and this'll turn into the abortion thread part deux when Gonz mows me down!!!!
So I'm out!
freako104
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Claire: You have some valid points but the school system here isnt exactly high quality. That is why people home school their kids. please remember that. plus in public schools it is more about get the kids in and out. not about giving them attention or helping them learn. However not everything can be taught homeshcooled such as social skills.
ClaireBear
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Gonz said:
Don't get me started on differentiation... try doing three ability groups in a mixed year group class!!!!!
I'm with you up to a point... extremely disruptive children can be more of a "hindrance" than a help to the development of the other children... by disruptive I'm talking about ESBD kids (emotional, social and behavioural disorders)... I've taught such children... they're no picnic... but certain special needs... autism is on a spectrum scale... the boy I was describing scores very low... or a physical disability can be enriching.
For example... while showing a group of year 4 (9 year old) girls some photo's I'd taken of another class on a school trip thay pointed out a certain girl in background... "Look! There's Lucy!" My heart sank.. I automatically thought they would say that they could tell it was her due to her wearing calipers on both legs and always stood at an angle "You can tell its her miss... cos of nice long red hair!"
ClaireBear
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Leslie said:
oooooooooooooooohmygooooooooooooooooooooooooood
I actually meant that as a joke Leslie... its nice to see you're such a wonderfully broad minded person!
ClaireBear
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Leslie said:However you meant it, it was definitely a joke.
Hmmmm...
Like I said I'm bowing out of this...
Seems to me there are far too many admins who have no right to be in such a position, looking at their behaviour and reaction to other mere member poster's remarks.
ClaireBear
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Leslie said:
No... there's actually a "No personal attacks" ruling here and I'm afraid I think laughing out loud at a statement which was actually a joke... in connection with someone's profession... is getting a tad personal!
*also shouldn't laugh at jokes, nor statements I find to be flabbergastingly asinine*
Keep goin, I need to know this stuff.
My son is outside right now in the small forest beside my house, collecting bugs with a group of children of all different ages, backgrounds, colours and sexes, aged from 4 through 11. They will bring a big bucket of slimy disgustin things back here, and ask me what they are if they don't know already, and we'll look up the different kinds of spiders on the net and see what the scientific name is, and whatever info we can, and then we'll go let them all go free.
Are you seriously telling me that him being in a roomful of desks having some woman prattle on about this same subject is giving him a more informative or socially interactive lesson?
Keep goin, I need to know this stuff.
My son is outside right now in the small forest beside my house, collecting bugs with a group of children of all different ages, backgrounds, colours and sexes, aged from 4 through 11. They will bring a big bucket of slimy disgustin things back here, and ask me what they are if they don't know already, and we'll look up the different kinds of spiders on the net and see what the scientific name is, and whatever info we can, and then we'll go let them all go free.
Are you seriously telling me that him being in a roomful of desks having some woman prattle on about this same subject is giving him a more informative or socially interactive lesson?
ClaireBear
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Leslie said:
Sorry Leslie but you really can't compare the crappy USA system with the UK...
It chalk and cheese..
I certainly don't "prattle" nor do I have a "room full of desks"!
I would however take my 25 kids into the nature garden/area (nearly all UK schools have one!) and allow the kids to do the same... using puters and magnifying bug boxes... they'd make a detailed sketch of one particular specimen... release it... (to me singing "Born Free")... then head back in to the bright learning environment with a quiet reading corner with comfy been bags desks in small groups of 6 children all facing each other, displays etc etc, for milk and help labeling the parts of the insects and arachnids we found... head... thorax... abdomen etc.
ClaireBear
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Gonz said:
Sorry "crappy Canadian system" then....
resorting to pendantic trivialities are we Gonz? Tut Tut!
The system Leslie described is different to the UK whether it is in Canada or America... so we are actually arguing at cross purposes... there is little reason to home educate in the UK... perhaps there is in CANADA.